A.I. and Religious Settlements Pantheon

[Kortanis]

Please tweak the A.I. so that this is not always the first one that will be grabbed up by the computer? I get that it's a very good pantheon to take but it's almost never available unless you luck out finding a means of getting faith points from a tribal settlement or a faith-based city-state early before anybody else early on because the A.I. always always always takes it.

Tweak the A.I. so that they might be inclined to take a pantheon that actually helps their long-term strategy, for instance a culture-based pantheon if that's their plan, or a faith-based one if religion is their plan, etc.

[Itchies500]

my AI never takes it - they usually take the River Goddess or the Pasture one, or something similar.

[Kortanis]

Originally posted by Itchies500:

my AI never takes it - they usually take the River Goddess or the Pasture one, or something similar.

Like I said unless I get some sort of boost early on like a tribal village giving +20 faith or being the first to find a faith-based city-state to give a boost to faith per turn? It's always gone. The A.I. without fail always snaps it up, whoever gets their pantheon first.

[Demystificator]

Welcome to CIV6 and it's randomness.

I feel AI should pick this pantheon if it's available as it's the most powerful. It should become a reward for Faith focused players or random to keep it fair. Before AI was picking it, players always picked it mindlessly even if they never put any effort in Faith beyond that.

And also as AI is rather dumb, as a player you can still counter that pantheon. If you know early on you won't have 1st pantheon, just focus on something else, that's part of strategy games : do the best with what you get.

[tempest.of.emptiness]

Originally posted by Kortanis:

Tweak the A.I. so that they might be inclined to take a pantheon that actually helps their long-term strategy, for instance a culture-based pantheon if that's their plan, or a faith-based one if religion is their plan, etc.

The very fact that you are here asking that the AI not take this pantheon so that you can is proof of why they should take it. If you felt that there was a better choice, for example one that would help more in the long-term, you would just be taking that and chuckling at the AI's error in going for the quick boost instead.

Originally posted by Kortanis:

Like I said unless I get some sort of boost early on like a tribal village giving +20 faith or being the first to find a faith-based city-state to give a boost to faith per turn? It's always gone. The A.I. without fail always snaps it up, whoever gets their pantheon first.

If you did get the first pantheon, then you'd be taking it yourself. Sounds like the AI is making the same decision you would make in their position, which makes sense.

Honestly, I don't think that the problem is that the AI always takes it, I think the problem is that it exists at all. Or, to be precise, the problem is that it awards a free settler. That part of the bonus should be adjusted to be on par with the other options, so that automatically selecting Religious Settlements if it is available isn't almost always the right choice.

[zxcvbob]

The one I like that is almost never available unless I somehow get first pick is Earth Goddess. If it's not available I usually take Divine Spark unless I'm playing with a leader who gets too many great people already.

[Itchies500]

interesting that no one has mentioned the one that i almost take 90% of the time. Divine Spark. It's extremely useful and has long term effects, but, most especially early in the game when you have extremely few Districts. Getting more and larger point spread for Great People ahead of the AI is the best option i've found.

[Kortanis]

Originally posted by tempest.of.emptiness:

Originally posted by Kortanis:

Tweak the A.I. so that they might be inclined to take a pantheon that actually helps their long-term strategy, for instance a culture-based pantheon if that's their plan, or a faith-based one if religion is their plan, etc.

The very fact that you are here asking that the AI not take this pantheon so that you can is proof of why they should take it. If you felt that there was a better choice, for example one that would help more in the long-term, you would just be taking that and chuckling at the AI's error in going for the quick boost instead.

Originally posted by Kortanis:

Like I said unless I get some sort of boost early on like a tribal village giving +20 faith or being the first to find a faith-based city-state to give a boost to faith per turn? It's always gone. The A.I. without fail always snaps it up, whoever gets their pantheon first.

If you did get the first pantheon, then you'd be taking it yourself. Sounds like the AI is making the same decision you would make in their position, which makes sense.

Honestly, I don't think that the problem is that the AI always takes it, I think the problem is that it exists at all. Or, to be precise, the problem is that it awards a free settler. That part of the bonus should be adjusted to be on par with the other options, so that automatically selecting Religious Settlements if it is available isn't almost always the right choice.

No actually it's not that I would always take it. It's situational. For instance if I'm trying to rush Great Bath and/or Stonehenge in the early game, then getting the pantheon to get a free settler gives me a second city to start producing other things I need while I have my capital work on the wonders.

Normally my go-to is God of Craftsmen for the extra production/faith from strategic resources, since one should be gobbling up as many of those as possible anyways. But even when I'm not taking Religious Settlements I look and it is always gone if I didn't get the first pantheon.