Caesar snubbed.

[I ♥♥♥♥ on first dates!]

Okay, let's get this straight, I love the game, and am a CIV fan. Though I understand why they went with Trajan as the leader of the Romans BUT Julius Caesar doesnt even get a nod as a Great General? WTAF? I play Roman almost every new Civ and Julius Caesar is a name tht rings out through the ages..... you couldn't even make him a Great General? Tsk tsk developers need to add this please FIRST expansion!

[Sugam]

maybe because they plan to add him later in a civ DLC?!? It would be weird to have him as a general and then later a civ.

[Crim]

I rather have Pompey as a General than Caesar

[noeste]

Plz not Julius Caesar again, Trajan is a good start, as a second roman emperor I would like to see Mark Aurel with some nice culture bonuses

[wusch]

You title is not really right by the way. Caesar is not a name but the latin version of Emporer. That is as if you call Queen Elizabeth II. simply "Queen" or Barbarossa simply "Emporer". So in that way Caesar is the leader of the romans. Caesar Trajan that is. ;)

[Steppenrazor]

Originally posted by wusch:

You title is not really right by the way. Caesar is not a name but the latin version of Emporer. That is as if you call Queen Elizabeth II. simply "Queen" or Barbarossa simply "Emporer". So in that way Caesar is the leader of the romans. Caesar Trajan that is. ;)

Er..

Caesar is a name.. Gaius Julius Caesar? It became a title because of how he took over Rome.

[Crim]

Originally posted by Steppenrazor:

Originally posted by wusch:

You title is not really right by the way. Caesar is not a name but the latin version of Emporer. That is as if you call Queen Elizabeth II. simply "Queen" or Barbarossa simply "Emporer". So in that way Caesar is the leader of the romans. Caesar Trajan that is. ;)

Er..

Caesar is a name.. Gaius Julius Caesar? It became a title because of how he took over Rome.

No love for Tiberius?

[wusch]

No, His name was Gaius (first name) Julius (Last name) and Caesar was a nick name, basicly (I am not native in english) "the shining one" or something like that. Other common nick names where Africanus (if you had military sucess in Africa, todays tunesia) or Germanus (if you had military sucessin todays germany). Everybody had nicknames like these because there where only around 15 diffrent first names for romans, so everybody had the same names. Womans didn't have first names, they where numbered.

[Jive Turkey]

Why not Romulous?

[Dayve]

Originally posted by wusch:

You title is not really right by the way. Caesar is not a name but the latin version of Emporer. That is as if you call Queen Elizabeth II. simply "Queen" or Barbarossa simply "Emporer". So in that way Caesar is the leader of the romans. Caesar Trajan that is. ;)

Caesar only became a title after Julius Caesar did what he did. Before he did what he did, Caesar was just a name.

I think the Latin word for emperor is imperator.

[Kolljak]

I agree the leader choices for most of these are odd. expecialy in my opinion the wonders. all the wonders are far off not really wonders only the cliffs of dover i have even heard off. "exceptio being everest and the amazon rivers which is hallariously small compaired to them in RL]

[wusch]

I like the fact that they choose Trajan, there have been many other great roman leaders besides Augustus And Gaius Julius Caesar.

[noeste]

Originally posted by wusch:

I like the fact that they choose Trajan, there have been many other great roman leaders besides Augustus And Gaius Julius Caesar.

Same, and all of u who dont like Trajan, dont forget, that he was one of the most important roman emperors. Another one would be Mark Aurel, plz, make him the second roman leader. Rome had many great leaders, so it is nice, that Firaxis decided to go a bit away from the two mainstream leaders everyone knows.

[Steppenrazor]

Originally posted by wusch:

No, His name was Gaius (first name) Julius (Last name) and Caesar was a nick name, basicly (I am not native in english) "the shining one" or something like that. Other common nick names where Africanus (if you had military sucess in Africa, todays tunesia) or Germanus (if you had military sucessin todays germany). Everybody had nicknames like these because there where only around 15 diffrent first names for romans, so everybody had the same names. Womans didn't have first names, they where numbered.

it started as a Nickname, 2 or 3 generations BEFORE the famous 'Gaius Julius Caerar'. but ended up becomeing the Family name.. (given both his grandfather and Father had the exact same name. one can safely say its no longer a nickname. normally we'd add "2nd,3rd" ect. Plus The Caeser we're talking about had an uncle named 'Sextus Julius Caesar')

Due to his actions - Caesar became a Title/honorific for Emperor. but it was still part of his name, again given his father/uncle and grandfather all used it as well. (edit - known as a Cognomen - used to be a nickname, but became hereditary)

[Phelian]

Vote 4 Tiberius or Septimus Severus!

[Crim]

Originally posted by el chupanibre:

Vote 4 Tiberius or Septimus Severus!

What about Tiberius Septim?