Nuking declared friends?

[MultiFrαpsεr ツ]

Hi. I was playing this late game with informative era going on. I had declared friendship for hundreds of turns with my neighbour Gilgamesh. When the game started to get closer to the end with Germany and Gilgamesh competeting against each other for a Mars Colonization Launch, I thought that it would be great if I declared war against Germany to destroy their spaceports and production which I greatly succeded.

However, when I realized that I can not declare any form of war against my declared friend Gilgamesh, I started to panic as he was very close to get a victory and it was already like turn 400+ or so.

So, I decided to try nuking my friend Gilg even though we're friends. I was very surprised that I succeded in it but for a even bigger surprise, he did not even call me an warmonger even if I just had destroyed all of his spaceports (they were all build very close to each other) and I destroyed their encampment and two wonders.

A few turns later he won scientific victory. So, this made me think that would it even help to nuke your declared friend. Will it have any affect on their production etc? I was playing on immortal and epic game speed on shuffle map with it being on large size.

[SamBC]

Yeah, it's a silly thing... if you can declare war on someone, nuking them declares war. If you can't declare war on them, you can still nuke them without declaring war.

[MultiFrαpsεr ツ]

Hmm yeah it sure is. Any idea if there will be some patch to this or?

[hopsblues]

Do nukes destroy infrastructure-like spaceports. I thought it didn't in civ6. I still haven't dropped one yet.

[MultiFrαpsεr ツ]

It did yes but Gilgamesh still won that scientific victory. But he had cities scattered to every corner of the map so I think he had somewhere else a spaceport too.

[mrmike_49]

Originally posted by MultiFrαpsεr ツ:

It did yes but Gilgamesh still won that scientific victory. But he had cities scattered to every corner of the map so I think he had somewhere else a spaceport too.

I wonder if he did or not? Maybe a bug that even though you nuked his spaceport, game kept counting down to construction of last science victory item?? I think you can check on his cities by trying to assign a spy to his cities: does the screen show WHAT districts he has in his cities (like it does for you cities when you go to assign a spy)??!!

[MultiFrαpsεr ツ]

Originally posted by mrmike_49:

Originally posted by MultiFrαpsεr ツ:

It did yes but Gilgamesh still won that scientific victory. But he had cities scattered to every corner of the map so I think he had somewhere else a spaceport too.

I wonder if he did or not? Maybe a bug that even though you nuked his spaceport, game kept counting down to construction of last science victory item?? I think you can check on his cities by trying to assign a spy to his cities: does the screen show WHAT districts he has in his cities (like it does for you cities when you go to assign a spy)??!!

I was able to retrieve some data of that yes, it appears that he had constructed two other space ports in his cities so that must have been from there where he got the victory from. But funny enough it showed a rocket (which was about to be launched) towed in the launch pad in the spaceport which made me believe that he will launch it from there (capital) which made me nuke it (which indeed destroyed it and lots of other stuff) but did not seem to have any effect.

Anyways, the problem here is that you can nuke your friends and allies without them even realizing or noticing it. LOL.

[MultiFrαpsεr ツ]

Like nuking your declared friend or allie should give you 25% worse warmonger effect than egregious is or even worse.

[fanboy]

devs are lazy, they make diplomacy so simple so they don't have to deal with backstab chaos (which was common in civ5). For example, A and B became ally and signed defensive pact, B and C did the same, what happens if A declares war on C?
Declared friend/ally = no war in any circumstance.

[MultiFrαpsεr ツ]

I guess that is how they went, I mean its clear that the devs got very lazy in Civ 6 and I'm not only speaking about this ''incident''. Such a shame...

[Cyprus Hillbilly]

Yeah, it's a well-known bug... use it in MP a lot