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Chillshotz Jul 5, 2020 @ 5:00am
This game is impossible on Deity I tried it 5 times
Taking note on what helps pick ip speed and even defeating other factions on deity mode. It seems that its way fast and winning at Deity mode as number 1 is impossible. It should be Unlimited Turns so I can beat whoever it is that comes on top in the 400th turn
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Originally posted by ChunkyMonkey:
Originally posted by Patriot03:
Originally posted by ChunkyMonkey:
The game must be rigged!

In this case the game is literally rigged though, at that difficulty the AI gets to start with I think 3 settlers, 5 warriors, and they get +80% production for the whole game.

No. That does not count as "rigging". It would be if this advantage for the AI was secret and unknown to the human player. But all these straight up bonuses and abilities for the AIs are something the game states to you. I am aware that the AI sucks if it were to play fair and square. It's just a disproportionate material advantage for the AI.

If at some point the AI was getting more and more bonus resource, stats, production, gold, faith, whatever and if that was unknown to the player, then it would count as rigging.

Of course playing against human players is always difficult because it takes way too long to beat a game.

If I were making decisions at Firaxis I'd try to develop some kind of blitz mode. Not just "quick" or "online" game speed, but just making build times as short as possible maybe maps smaller, as long as you could play a match with real people in under couple hours.

If anyone is a chess or go player, then you know that players even in those games don't have patience to play a long game, so there are blitz and rapid modes for those games.

It is not the same, but when you start a custom AI game you can always go to advanced setup and set game move limit and you can start at eras other than ancient era. I tried it and it is actually not less fun at all if your goal is to play a game till the end. I just really like the early to middle game when you are still rushing to take over undiscovered area. That is probably most fun for everyboody.
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mikebarbosa Jul 5, 2020 @ 9:27pm 
First time I beat on deity was a diplomatic victory. I've beat it a few other times after that. Focus on defense at the beginning (building units) and then play catch up. Try to have some allies/friends and you will have a shot. Also choose a strong civ. to play to make it easier. You can change settings so there is no turn limit by choosing Victory type.
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Chillshotz Jul 5, 2020 @ 10:46pm 
Pericles is very strong early game. Im looking for a domination victory. Through pericles I beat factions early by flooding Hoplites. Hoplites flood very impressive!
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Lemurian1972 Jul 5, 2020 @ 10:47pm 
Wow. Five whole tries eh? I guess I should listen to you and stop watching Deity Let's Plays from guys who win regularly and go through what they do turn by turn to teach others.
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ChunkyMonkey Jul 5, 2020 @ 11:14pm 
Yea, man. Your post is just ridiculous. Not sure if "5 tries" is supposed to be meaningful. Yea, I started playing chess yesterday. Played 5 times and lost each time. The game must be rigged!

YouTube has many videos from some guys who spend waaay too much playing and analyzing the game and they have videos where they beat it on deity many times and showed each move made in their videos. I can recommend the two I watch regularly. One is from a guy from Poland (who speaks English well). His screen name and channel is Marbozir

It takes a lot of playing and learning all the game mechanics and rules, plus experience. For me its just not worth it because I prefer to play with less stress. Another user I like to watch is PotatoMcWhiskey (his name is all lower case ). I don't know what country he is from. I think he is from Ireland.

If you actually have interest in it they explain many things that you'd be surprised you don't know even if they are explained in front of you in the game.
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leandrombraz Jul 5, 2020 @ 11:35pm 
A lot of deity players complain that deity is too easy, so it isn't really a matter of deity being impossible. The thing about deity is that you're punished hard if you don't play well. In lower difficulties, you can make mistakes, you can play in ways that you might enjoy, but that aren't that effective, but on deity, you just need to be effective or you might start to fall behind. If you're asking for unlimited turns, I assume you're being too slow. Deity is quite easy if you know how to win early.
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Chillshotz Jul 6, 2020 @ 12:27am 
I'm asking for unlimited turns because by doing that I can do a joint war. Cultural and Diplomatic victory is very easy. 5 tries means, the first 3 are checking out what works, the last 2 are really turn to turn decisions. Can you even beat a faction in deity mode? Hoplites Flood is so effective against medival era. But to do that there are certain things you have to do first. I was so close to a domination victory
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Chubby Viking Jul 6, 2020 @ 12:44am 
I "cheated" a little on Deity... Took several achievements in one go. Tiny, Pangea map with one other ai. Against Mbwazela or (whatever his name is). Only victory allowed was religious. Worked like a charm as Mbwazela (or whatever his name is) can't found a religion :)
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lethminite Jul 6, 2020 @ 2:16am 
Just about every 4x game takes 80+ hours to get the hang of, even then learning to min max stuff will take even longer.
After only 5 games, you likely don't even understand the importance of so much of the information shown to you.
Do you know which techs and strong early, and why to go for them? do you know when you should go for a pantheon, and what one you should get if you do? do you know where to found your first city (it's not always where you spawn), which districts to prioritise based on the terrain? When the AI power spikes? when to spend gold? if to sell luxuries? chop trees?

Even save scumming, you just aren't going to know when you are even making a mistake with out a lot of basic knowledge.

None of this is a problem for lower difficulties, but for deity the AI has such a huge starting bonus (and persistent combat bonuses etc) you need to squeeze every last drop out.

The fact that you are talking about extra turns makes me think you are getting to the late game, but are too far behind to win. I'm pretty sure you can turn off everything but domination victory, and continue playing until you are wiped out. (or there will be a mod for it). But I think you will be better served learning to play better on the lower difficulties, and working your way up.
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Chillshotz Jul 10, 2020 @ 1:22am 
I think I will have that Deity Acheive today. As a beginner I am already Deity
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Chillshotz Jul 10, 2020 @ 1:25am 
I thoroughly Eliminated the Schythian from 12 Cities. Tormys could not do much. Lol. This may be a domination victory on Deity difgiculty. as well
Last edited by Chillshotz; Jul 10, 2020 @ 1:26am
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Literally Me Jul 10, 2020 @ 5:22am 
If all else fails, play Korea. Haven't lost a single start yet w/Korea. Another free deity civ for dom on deity is Germany and Macedon, although with the latest GS patch a few months ago the city state walls brought down Germany's early game expansion power but they're still comfortable A tier w/Hansa
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Chillshotz Jul 10, 2020 @ 5:59am 
I dont understand. Its already the 500th Turn and I have the Top Score Victory. Yet its not yet victory. Why is that? I am now on 502 turn yet theres no Victory Trigger.
Last edited by Chillshotz; Jul 10, 2020 @ 6:00am
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Chillshotz Jul 10, 2020 @ 6:02am 
Koreans are actually one of my favorite peoples. From where I am, the Koreans are number 1. Sometimes the Japanese, sometimes the Chinese but the Koreans really takes our liking in Asia.
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Patriot03 Jul 10, 2020 @ 9:46am 
Originally posted by ChunkyMonkey:
The game must be rigged!

In this case the game is literally rigged though, at that difficulty the AI gets to start with I think 3 settlers, 5 warriors, and they get +80% production for the whole game.
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Chillshotz Jul 10, 2020 @ 10:19am 
Oooh boogey. China won the Science Victory before the 500th turn. And I pressed Just one more Turn. At the 500th turn I already won the Score Victory but it is no longer triggering any victory. I destroyed Schythian Empire and now im taking the french. So the question is, Can I still Win after the Just One more Turn? Just because they won the Science, thats not yet victory.I am the won who got the Score Victory at the 500th turn. Hmmm
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