Sid Meier's Civilization VI

Sid Meier's Civilization VI

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Poop King 6/mai./2020 às 9:47
Does CPU affect loading / map generation speed?
I'm guessing for sure on the latter, my main PC is waiting for a replacement motherboard which I should have by the end of this week, and I decided to play Civ VI on my backup G4560. It has a single SSD and borrows my 32 Gb ram and 1080 Ti as needed (mainly just a backup test bench) and it takes maybe 3x longer to start a new game compared to my 9700K though I also have it running on Raid 0 M.2 Nvme drives in my main build.
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Trojari 7/mai./2020 às 13:39 
Most of the time long load times are effected by the lack of an SSD. In this case since you have an SSD it could be do to the lower end CPU (no offense). Your backup CPU is a Pentium dual core which are a little notorious for being slow. I haven't checked but the CPU may also be close to minimum system requirements. Hope this helps.
Cheers!
Poop King 8/mai./2020 às 2:59 
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Most of the time long load times are effected by the lack of an SSD. In this case since you have an SSD it could be do to the lower end CPU (no offense). Your backup CPU is a Pentium dual core which are a little notorious for being slow. I haven't checked but the CPU may also be close to minimum system requirements. Hope this helps.
Cheers!

Its less than minimum, the minimum is an I3.

Once the games are loaded FPS is fine and being held at 120-144 by my GPU, but load times with the Pentium are abysmal. But I should have my replacement Z390 motherboard I've ordered soon for my 9700K.
Snow 17/mai./2020 às 9:05 
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Once the games are loaded FPS is fine and being held at 120-144 by my GPU
So once the games are loaded, CPU doesn't draw frames anymore, all work goes to GPU? What? :D
Poop King 17/mai./2020 às 9:20 
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Escrito originalmente por Hung Boxer:
Once the games are loaded FPS is fine and being held at 120-144 by my GPU
So once the games are loaded, CPU doesn't draw frames anymore, all work goes to GPU? What? :D

Draw your own conclusion, I did the test and this was the result. It would seem like CPU cores are only affect loading speed like SSDs in this singular case.
Maya-Neko 17/mai./2020 às 9:41 
You should really test the AI benchmark within the game. Your GPU propably doesn't help you that much reducing late game turn times^^
Poop King 17/mai./2020 às 10:34 
Escrito originalmente por Maya-Neko:
You should really test the AI benchmark within the game. Your GPU propably doesn't help you that much reducing late game turn times^^

Oh I should have tried that. The 1080 Ti is no longer paired with the Pentium though.
Snow 17/mai./2020 às 11:09 
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So once the games are loaded, CPU doesn't draw frames anymore, all work goes to GPU? What? :D

Draw your own conclusion, I did the test and this was the result. It would seem like CPU cores are only affect loading speed like SSDs in this singular case.
If CPU cores don't affect anything - how GPU gets frames to work with in a first place? Don't you think each and every frame has to be drawn by CPU first?
Poop King 17/mai./2020 às 11:27 
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Escrito originalmente por Hung Boxer:

Draw your own conclusion, I did the test and this was the result. It would seem like CPU cores are only affect loading speed like SSDs in this singular case.
If CPU cores don't affect anything - how GPU gets frames to work with in a first place? Don't you think each and every frame has to be drawn by CPU first?

I didnt say they dont affect anytthing.
Snow 17/mai./2020 às 11:39 
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If CPU cores don't affect anything - how GPU gets frames to work with in a first place? Don't you think each and every frame has to be drawn by CPU first?

I didnt say they dont affect anytthing.
What you said was "FPS is fine and being held at 120-144 by my GPU", while in fact GPU is only able to "hold" frames CPU made for it, that's what this is about.
Snow 17/mai./2020 às 11:56 
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GPU does the heavy lifting in this one case of a video game based on the fact that it maintains very high frame rates on a rubbish dual core pentium CPU.

Video games are mostly reliant on the GPU, not the CPU hence you can usually get by with a weaker CPU if you so wanted to.
GPU can't do any kind of lifting until CPU draws frames for it.
Hey, a simple question for you, what requires a better graphics card - FHD 144fps or UHD 60fps?
Poop King 17/mai./2020 às 12:09 
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GPU does the heavy lifting in this one case of a video game based on the fact that it maintains very high frame rates on a rubbish dual core pentium CPU.

Video games are mostly reliant on the GPU, not the CPU hence you can usually get by with a weaker CPU if you so wanted to.
GPU can't do any kind of lifting until CPU draws frames for it.
Hey, a simple question for you, what requires a better graphics card - FHD 144fps or UHD 60fps?

Pretty crap comparison there as the two are not comparable at all, and are both rubbish tier specs.

I would never pick either FHD 144 hz nor UHD 60 hz.

WQHD 144+ hz was much better than both those options until 4K 120+ hz screens became available, but the prices on these are very prohibitive, as well as the hardware required to maintain those frames, so for gaming WQHD or UWUHD at high refresh rates and lower response times are much better to use.

The specs you provided are more better optimised for TV / movies and not at all that great for gaming. FHD is only useful for budget gaming, and you can already get UWUHD screens with 200hz refresh rates.
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Snow 17/mai./2020 às 12:12 
Escrito originalmente por Hung Boxer:
Pretty crap comparison there as the two are not comparable at all, and are both rubbish tier specs.
Even 2080 Ti can't run The Witcher 3 ultra settings FHD 144fps, how is that rubbish specs?
And you didn't answer the question, most likely because you have no idea how PC works.
Porky Pig 17/mai./2020 às 16:30 
You should Ask in the Hardware forums...
SamBC 18/mai./2020 às 0:26 
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Escrito originalmente por Hung Boxer:

Draw your own conclusion, I did the test and this was the result. It would seem like CPU cores are only affect loading speed like SSDs in this singular case.
If CPU cores don't affect anything - how GPU gets frames to work with in a first place? Don't you think each and every frame has to be drawn by CPU first?
No, it doesn't.

3D rendering works by the CPU telling the GPU what to render, but it doesn't draw the frames - it tells the GPU what there is and the GPU does all the calculations to turn that into a frame to display. Though obviously it's more complex than that, that's the basics of it (for 3D).
SamBC 18/mai./2020 às 0:31 
CPU is very very heavily involved in mapgen, so starting a new game will take a lot longer with weaker CPU.
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