Finding Civilization VI way too hard

[rjsq]

I played all of the Civilization games up to this point but this one is way too hard even at the settler level. I like some room to breath but you are attacked your opponents very early. Is this game more about military than building / discovering? If so I am disappointed.

[Raisti]

lies lieber weiter katzenkrimis kommentare sind nicht so deins :P

[Martin]

The "problem" with the civ series really is the civ ai.

Now I personally understand why it's pretty thick.. I do believe it doesn't need to be so thick without compromising the gameplay.

But the issue with difficulty in Civ is that the "ai" never actually changes in difficulty.. which is why it can be just as hard at Settler Mode as it is in Diety.

The difficulty is based on the size of bonus the ai get's per level of difficulty, ie more starting settlers, more gold per turn, more production etc. But how the ai actually deals with all those warriors it produces doesn't really change between the difficulty levels and it's always been like this.

The best way to look at it is to look at combat with barbs.. in Civ 3, 4, 5 and 6.. the barbs, when there's enough of them move like chess pieces and they'll try to trap you on the board, once trapped they'll move in for the kill. And they'll do this no matter how difficult you make the game, in the same way every time. The Civ ai and to a lesser extent the CS ai does exactly the same and works in exactly the same way.

The pieces always move in the same way, they move in powerfully.. then you injure them, they run away and heal, if there's enough to do damage, they'll all attack, even if some are damaged, if there's not enough, even fully healed, they'll fortify and wait. That's basically Civ ai in a nutshell.

You keep damaging units, they'll keep running away to heal, they'll never attack. Use this to your advantage and you can wipe out huge armies with a few units.

In early game, building a minimum 6-8 units pretty sure forces the ai to fight amoung themselves.. it's an easy defence. And yes, it does mean you can't get those two extra settlers out or the builders or even get stonehenge or a holy district up.. the latter are a huge risk if you end up in a war.. nothing like building a district then some ai attacking you and pillaging it..

[acara41]

Geez... Complaining that the game is too hard.... You act like a baby that has fallen and scraped its knees...

No wonder only 1/3 the players ever have completed a game....

[bmrigs]

引用自 acara41：

Geez... Complaining that the game is too hard.... You act like a baby that has fallen and scraped its knees...

No wonder only 1/3 the players ever have completed a game....

I would say it's because of boredom rather than difficulty.

[Raisti]

引用自 acara41：

Geez... Complaining that the game is too hard.... You act like a baby that has fallen and scraped its knees...

No wonder only 1/3 the players ever have completed a game....

Read complete Thread and realize that this isnt about difficulty.
[sarcasm]Also glad you explained us how awesome you are with your post. Was very needed[/sarcasm]

[*moriarty*]

the civilisation series is exploration game more than ever but civ6 have a political face than the over civilisation don't have . it is complitely differente than the over and have a very slow game speed we can't use the experience of the civilisation series in civ6 . we must restart how learn to play in civ6 . so someone can be lost with this one .

( scuze for my english i am french and have a bad english i know )

[rjsq]

Thx all for the comments. When I said way too hard I should have qualified it to "way too hard at Settler Level", By "way too hard" I meant the aggression level in the AI. The AI makes it hard for your to get going. I am used to Civ V where I always won by Space Race. I had a big enough military to deter others but won by leaping ahead in technology. So far I haven't been able to play that sort of style in Civ VI.

[xycotta]

I blame it on map size and spacing, everyone is too close together and makes everyone trigger happy

[Polarization]

I can only imagine someone with a very low IQ, learning difficulty's or young children would find Settler difficulty way too hard.

Surely you can not be serious ? , I would love to see a screen shot of what you are actually doing for the first 25-50 turns on settler difficulty to be finding this way too hard ? are you only building wonders and builders perhaps ?

I have been playing Civ since number 1 was released and this is the easiest civ yet with the most passive and pathetic AI even on Diety level that is a complete pushover, so I don't believe you have been playing since number 1.

I have won all victory conditions on Diety very easily after my first couple of games on lower levels and faced no risk from AI invasion at any time, and I was definitely not a diety level player in any previous version.

[hermitec]

If you're having trouble in settler, you probably need to at least play the tutorial. No offence intended, but settler is so laughably easy it's boring.

[hermitec]

引用自 Polarization：

I can only imagine someone with a very low IQ, learning difficulty's or young children would find Settler difficulty way too hard.

Surely you can not be serious ? , I would love to see a screen shot of what you are actually doing for the first 25-50 turns on settler difficulty to be finding this way too hard ? are you only building wonders and builders perhaps ?

I have been playing Civ since number 1 was released and this is the easiest civ yet with the most passive and pathetic AI even on Diety level that is a complete pushover, so I don't believe you have been playing since number 1.

I have won all victory conditions on Diety very easily after my first couple of games on lower levels and faced no risk from AI invasion at any time, and I was definitely not a diety level player in any previous version.

This. This is probably the easiest civ yet if anything. I've played all civ games besides the very original (though I only have 3 onwards in my possession today).

[hermitec]

引用自 bmrigs：

引用自 acara41：

Geez... Complaining that the game is too hard.... You act like a baby that has fallen and scraped its knees...

No wonder only 1/3 the players ever have completed a game....

I would say it's because of boredom rather than difficulty.

I sort of see your point. It's a very slow paced game, and with the growing number of FPS and other fast-paced games (not that I dislike fast paced games, I own tons and enjoy them lots) more and more people probably find games like civ "boring".

(♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ i've replied 3 times in a row can i get a medal)

[Professor H. Farnsworth]

Noooo... Noooo.. The only remotely difficult part of Civ 6 is all the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ city planning you have to be doing... FROM TURN ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ 1.. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. I LOVE IT!

I played through it a few times now (King/Emperor).. I always have a military in the beginning - nothing much just enough to defend my cities from attacks (AI usually is discouraged if it lose 1 or 2 units and you don't lose any)..

What is really complicated is having well-built cities. Having to decide from the get go whether to use an area for future farms, Non-industrial districts, industrial districts and last but not least housing... Yeah... So, I just went with the usual approach in my first few games - now to realize... You really need to do this from the beginning if you want to make life easy on yourself.

And if Civ 6 was boring I wouldn't have pulled to all-nighters in a row.. Happily nuking with Saladin.

[IamLegend]

build up some military, expand once or twice. Attack the closest neighbour. And you should be able to beat any game up till emperor. Unless perhaps if you are on a very crowded spot with Gilgamesh. The AI does not know how to defend yet.

I`m playing a more peacefull game because i find the game to be to easy if i go to much on offensive.

[blkbutterfly]

Too hard?!! Civ VI is way easier than Civ V IMO