I am having a blast with the 'play free' time for this game - OR NOT

[FiatLux]

I am having a blast with the 'play free' time for this game - OR NOT :

Yesterday , after having installed the game then the 'behavior shield' of my AV shutdown the game when I started it and the AV demanded a complete computer reboot to finish the job when I tried to start the game.
I were a bit tired and didn't want to bother and thought that I would fix the problem today.
So today I thought , well , I will take a chance and add the offending game file to AV exceptions list , so I did , but mind you , that was only *one* file.
Then I thought that to be sure I ought check game cache to be free of any eventual problem before starting the game , so I did that too , and surely enough Steam reported that not less than three files were not OK and needed to be repaired so that was done.
Then I started the game , and....... the AV (AVG) then made sure that all I saw were a black screen , I went CTRL+ALT+DELETE , started task manager , and finally the AV popped up that another file were offending (threat name IDP.ALEXA.51) .
I simply can not be bothered to have keep being bothered with this...

Also I am sure that many will attack the AVG AV program but reading the many opininions in the forum where the EULA is said to pave the way for spying on user then I am inclined to err to cautionary side !!!
So bye bye play free time...

Offending files :
1: launchpad,exe
2: Sid Meier's Civilization VI.exe (\steamapps\common\Sid Meier's Civilization VI\Base\Binaries\Win64Steam)

[Indy10]

From wiki on AVG "anti-virus":
As of 2014, there are numerous reports dating back to 2012 that the AVG SafeGuard Toolbar installs itself without the consent of the user, as a side effect of installing other applications. The toolbar program appears to cause significant RAM issues and can be considered an intrusive potentially unwanted program (PUP). Once installed, the AVG toolbar is virtually impossible to remove. The toolbar uninstaller does not function, instead re-installing the add-on if manually removed. Consequently, many discussions and blog posts have described complex procedures for removal of the AVG toolbar, each with very mixed results.[15][16][17][18][19][20]

In September 2015, AVG announced that it would start tracking users for profit, analyzing their data for sale to the advertising industry. This measure received criticism from consumers, the press and security industry, as many users intended to use the software in order to protect themselves from spyware and would not expect the functions of spyware to be "hidden" in security software.[21]

In December 2015, the "AVG Web TuneUp" Google Chrome extension (automatically installed with AVG AntiVirus) was revealed to contain multiple critical security vulnerabilities.[22] Most notably, Chrome users' browsing history could be exposed to any website

This is rather what you need to blame rather than some non-updated EULA declaration.

[FiatLux]

Originally posted by Indy10:

This is rather what you need to blame rather than some non-updated EULA declaration.

And AVG's own policies would have what to do with the TOPIC of this thread ????
Please stay on topic : which is the fact that I can not play the game because of the AV claiming/warning that the game is not acting OK !
AND FYI , I do not use the AVG SafeGuard Toolbar or AVG Web TuneUp component !!!

[Indy10]

All that I'm saying is that if you just uninstall your borderline malware (which is really hard, by the looks of it), Civ6 will work perfectly fine. I have had this game running on three different computers with three different operating systems for a long time and with two different anti-virus programs enabled full-on (Norton, McAfee), and it has always worked like a charm. No problems whatsoever.

[FiatLux]

Originally posted by Indy10:

All that I'm saying is that if you just uninstall your borderline malware (which is really hard, by the looks of it)

Please stop your trolling and stay out of this discussions if you got nothing constructive to add

[Arestris]

Problem found: It's avg ... useless, in this case even dangerous snake oil ...

But well, you know the answer already, even if you don't want to hear it, so it's obvious, you're anyway only here to spread some toxic hate.

[Prometheus]

LoL, installs combined spyware+malware to prevent malware, and complains about privacy invasion from some other product flagged by aforementioned spyware+malware.

Commercial virus scanners have been useless for years now, and the best anti-spyware, anti-virus and anti-malware products are free.

And guess what? They don't flag false positives for your game files!

[FiatLux]

Originally posted by Arestris:

you're anyway only here to spread some toxic hate.

This is not only off topic but pure harassment !

[[GCA] King Apo]

Sorry mate, Anti virus does not work in the magical way that you think it does. You are basically buying trust and hope your antivirus will protect the computer FROM THE USER.

Snake Oil at it's best.

You are the golden goose, for the AV industry who has a terrible track record from top to bottom. Really funny to see for me, but at the end of the day your false sense of security will hurt you when you expect it the least.

For the future how you really will get hurt on the internet: Phishing(this relates to privacy, which you apparently do not care about, so more lulz incoming), infected mails (here again with phishing & social engineering), java script in web browser, ads on websites, not patching all your software(&OS) to newest version if there is security relevant updates and last but not least, downloading untrusted software from the internet.

[Prometheus]

Not to mention 0day exploits and weaknesses, which no AV can properly protect you from, exactly because the issue is 0day! Back in the golden days of the AV industry the same virus and subtypes would circulate for years and years, making it possible to scan with a reference to a library of security problems. Things are just not like that any more!

[FiatLux]

Originally posted by GCA King Apo:

Sorry mate, Anti virus does not work in the magical way that you think it does. You are basically buying trust and hope your antivirus will protect the computer FROM THE USER.

I know , and same trust you basically extend to those who makes games like 'Sid Meier's Civilization VI' too !!!!

Originally posted by GCA King Apo:

which you apparently do not care about.

It is like none of the participants in this discussion cares about anything that I write : I already told earlier that " I do not use the AVG SafeGuard Toolbar or AVG Web TuneUp components" !!!!

But should anyone care about 'the real problems' then our problems are much greater with those that makes our OS' and those that controls the data flow on e.g. Google and Facebook . Anyone who knows how many BILLIONS of USD these people generates every year in profit will also understand that what they sell are information about us.
But that is all beyond the scope of this petty discussion...

The discussion here for me , if we could all get past the petty game or company fanboys, are my inability to enjoy the play free time for the game 'Sid Meier's Civilization VI' because in the end then I will not trust the people making this game.
Also I think that some of the problems peole as users are facing are that the companies do not trust users because of the widespread game piracy so that they tries tighten the grip users also.
Some anti piracy measures uses techniques used by those spreading virus also which at some point makes it impossible to make real good decisions when you get an alert and where you end up in a place where it is a pure matter of belief if you think that you are safe or not - because you either never really know OR never really are !!!!!

[BlackSmokeDMax]

AVG. When was that last decent, about 2005? Earlier?

[[GCA] King Apo]

You are using anti virus software, you claimed so yourself in your first post. What you have is probably a false positive.

Civ6 is made by a known company, who would be in a pretty bad spot if they infected your pc. Your snake oil (eg AV) on the other hand makes it lively hood by scaring users into buying 'professional' and 'business'-suites.

[Prometheus]

Originally posted by FiatLux:

The discussion here for me , if we could all get past the petty game or company fanboys, are my inability to enjoy the play free time for the game 'Sid Meier's Civilization VI' because in the end then I will not trust the people making this game

Trust is a function of whether or not you think, you will be able to handle what someone else might do. That means trust is a function of you. Who you trust is within your control, and your control alone.

There is no fix for that.

[FiatLux]

Originally posted by Prometheus:

Trust is a function of whether or not you think, you will be able to handle what someone else might do. That means trust is a function of you. Who you trust is within your control, and your control alone.

There is no fix for that.

I think that you are wrong there , I think that the behavior of surrounding companies and programmers and the world as such are very much part of what determins what and who I think that I can trust !

[Prometheus]

Originally posted by FiatLux:

I think that you are wrong there , I think that the behavior of surrounding companies and programmers and the world as such are very much part of what determins what and who I think that I can trust !

If you examine that statement, that means other people control your emotions and your thoughts. Which simply cannot be true. You are the source of your own cognition.