Rise and Fall worth it?

[Vantezzle]

Would you say the expansion is worth it's price? And if so, which Civilisation pack should I get with it?(If any?)

Also, is the spyware thing actually true? Should I be worried about playing the game?

[WimpyTheWarrior]

In my opinion....

R&F is worth it if you like managing details and sub-systems in your strategy games. R&F adds additonal activity like Golden & Dark Ages, Governors, & Loyalty. All of these have to be managed so if that's what you enjoy in Civ games then you'll likely enjoy R&F.

If however you enjoy Civ-style games as "roll up an army and roll over my opponents", then the new sub-systems may just be a distraction to what you enjoy about the game. The new management tasks could be an irritant.

"worth the price" is subjective and dependent on your financial status. For me it was worth the full price, but I'm a mature-aged gamer (financially secure) and I enjoy min-maxing games.

The spyware was removed.

[Demystificator]

8 civs, 9 leaders and new rules. Compared to civs dlcs, R&F worth its price.

Compared to base game, well... it depends how much you like the base game and if you feel like you're starting to get bored with it.

Era systems can be frustating, especially if you focus only one ressource.
Loyalty prevents ppl from invading a city at the end of the world or too far/aggressive settling.

I'd say R&F is designed to make you more active through the whole game. If you feel like you always win just by spamming mindlessly a strat, R&F may make your ways a little trickier.


For Civs DLC, it really depends on your preferences. I'd say Australia is pretty good. Vikings is meh, either for you or AI cause they really rely on maps with water (I mean, they're boring on pangea maps). I didn't make any scenarios though.


About RedShell ; I don't know how to verify if they really removed it. But, if you don't trust devs/editors on that, well... you'd better wait for a discount.

[LextheMighty]

Rise and Fall is great. Loyalty prevents other civs from settling cities right next to you. Gold/dark ages give you more to think about each era. Governors add a bit more strategy to city planning.

As for the civ packs it depends what you want added to the game. If you want more warmongers get the Macedon and Persia one. If you want more religious civs get the Khmer and Indonesia one or the Poland one. If you want a civ that can fit with any play style then get Australia or Nubia. I would not reccommend the Viking DLC though because it only adds a scenario (Norway is in the base game).

The "spyware" (aka Redshell) has been removed so nothing to worry about there.