Stuck in the Dark Age

[StreetFamz]

I must really suck because I only scored a 3 and now I'm in the Dark Age. I don't get it, I meet new Civs, I built two districts. Let me know what you guys did to get more points. Also on your first try did you get the Golden ge right away?

[Drenus]

first game after expansion, my first impression is that getting, or not getting a golden age, is pure rng

i got 2 barb camps, met 3 civs and 2 city states, got 2 wonders, found 2 natural wonders, and a few more points from things i don't quite understand yet, and i didn't get a golden age

[Elhoim]

RNG? It's all math, check the conditions on the civilopedia and try to achieve them. Sure, there's a bit of luck regarding map placement and such, but you can definitely plan around it. It also depends a bit on which speed and map type you are playing on.

[leandrombraz]

You can see in the civilopedia every action that award points and do a strategy to get it. If you think it through, you are likely to get a heroic age next.

[garravesh]

My first game, i just logged out and posted here.....I had 4 golden ages in a row.......it is all about, sadly, killing barbarian camps, finding natural wonders first, and creating wonders.....and getting the named folks to join ya and create their wonders.


Before this expansion I did exactly what I do every game.......and in this expansion I changed nothing......the dark ages and golden eras are virtually worthless to me. Only 4 options for a golden age and all four are worthless to me.

[Drenus]

Originally posted by Elhoim:

RNG? It's all math, check the conditions on the civilopedia and try to achieve them. Sure, there's a bit of luck regarding map placement and such, but you can definitely plan around it. It also depends a bit on which speed and map type you are playing on.

the map is completly rng, so having a list does exactly squat if nothing of it is within reaching distance (2 natural wonders within the first 10 turns of movement was damn lucky)

you can say what you want, but to me, the age feature seems unfinished

[townkrier]

First game I played as Korea on immortal vs 10 comps, currently on easy track for science or domination victories.

I have got 2 golden ages and one dark age. Dark age will follow a golden age in a lot of cases, especially early game, because golden age policies are about in game strengths more than adding era scores.

Here’s the upside though: dark ages are NOT bad. Loyalty didn’t seem like a problem at all, and some of the dark age policy tenant options are freaking OP AF. The plus food and production to trade routes will get your cities BIG and healthy quick. Embrace the darkness!

[Martin]

3 is bad man, what did you try to do? No districts, no barb camps, no wonders, no research? How'd you manage to only get 3?

I usually find I'm on 11/12 or 39/40 that one point is the sticker.. which is really annoying.

[Averagedog]

Originally posted by townkrier:

First game I played as Korea on immortal vs 10 comps, currently on easy track for science or domination victories.

I have got 2 golden ages and one dark age. Dark age will follow a golden age in a lot of cases, especially early game, because golden age policies are about in game strengths more than adding era scores.

Here’s the upside though: dark ages are NOT bad. Loyalty didn’t seem like a problem at all, and some of the dark age policy tenant options are freaking OP AF. The plus food and production to trade routes will get your cities BIG and healthy quick. Embrace the darkness!

my guess is Loyalty plays a much more major role later. But there are some interesting things. During the classical era Montezuma took over the Chinese Capitol and I was given an emergency quest to take it back with the help of China. China backed out of the quest so I did it myself within a few turns of the deadline. I now own the former Chinese capitol with an additional 2,400 gold reward and some other defensive bonuses to that city.

The thing was, the chinese capitol was kind of surrounded by cities Montezuma took over and China. I was receiving a lot of Loyalty penalties so I had to move one of my governors there to ease the pressure. Well, it turns out that one of the other cities Montezuma took over rebelled and became a free state then eventually rejoined China. It was very cool towatch. I am slowly turning the former chinese capitol into a military base in case if China or Montezuma ever encroach on Korean soil again (as I feverishly rush science to get access to musketmen.

I am a pleb at this game, so the greatest "difficulty" I can manage is King.

[Viper]

Golden Ages should not be easy to get. Just try to stay out of a dark age.

[townkrier]

As for getting out of a dark age if you want to: trade route is basically guaranteed to get you out but it’ll be hard to get a heroic from it. The others are more boom/bust

[townkrier]

Originally posted by Viper:

Golden Ages should not be easy to get. Just try to stay out of a dark age.

Embrace the darkness! It’s not that bad

[420Blazeit]

building districts only gets you the points if you get the special thing (from being in a normal or dark age) theres probaby hundreds of ways to get points. finding new continents, or wonders. settling on a new continent, or certian game tiles (like desert or tundra) getting a unit four promotions, building the special building/unit, and sp much more. only ones i've found so far that's era specific, are fnding ancent ruins (only in the ancient era you get points) and barbarian camps, up to the midevial era, which awards you 3 if close by to your cities.

[Kotli]

The thing is Dark Ages are not that bad sure you get reduced loyalty but you get some dark age only government policies. Plus you get a reduction to era score requirments for both normal and golden ages.
Oh and if you manage to get a goldern age out of a dark age it upgraded to a Heroic age thats lets you take 3 bonuses instead of 1 as well as an even higher boosts compared to normal goldern ages.

[Despiser]

I got 2 gold age in a row to start with cree. Over time it will be clearer.

[leandrombraz]

Originally posted by ChainsTheClown:

building districts only gets you the points if you get the special thing (from being in a normal or dark age) theres probaby hundreds of ways to get points. finding new continents, or wonders. settling on a new continent, or certian game tiles (like desert or tundra) getting a unit four promotions, building the special building/unit, and sp much more. only ones i've found so far that's era specific, are fnding ancent ruins (only in the ancient era you get points) and barbarian camps, up to the midevial era, which awards you 3 if close by to your cities.

Districts with good adjacency give 3 points without dedication (the special thing). 4 gold on commercial hubs, 3 science on campus and so on. Go for strong adjacency if you need points.