Workers have no option to clear forest?

[seanpook]

I used to be able to clear forest outside of city limits, but all of a sudden in the last two games I've started, my workers can't clear any forest or floodplain or jungle unless it's within the city limits.

[Bullet Cake]

That was an intentional balance change in the recent patch.

[seanpook]

Well that really sucks.

[Moobert]

It ruined my fort building at choke points habbit. Can't put forts down in forests appearently.

[CivNut123]

Any real brilliance a player shows is stomped on by the developer.

In real life, a civilisation would never chop down a forrest to provide lumber for production.

Please remain bored at all times.

[backstab_boy]

That was clearly a bug, and one that lead to heavy exploiting. Its funny that someone would refer to an abuse of a known exploit as 'player brilliance'

[Mansen]

Originally posted by backstab_boy:

That was clearly a bug, and one that lead to heavy exploiting. Its funny that someone would refer to an abuse of a known exploit as 'player brilliance'

It shouldn't interfere with things like this however. Classic example of patching a bug with a cast, rather than a bandaid.

Originally posted by Moobert:

It ruined my fort building at choke points habbit. Can't put forts down in forests appearently.

[CivNut123]

What in real life would prevent a unit from chopping down forrest, if it wanted to? I meant seriously.

Did you actually expect us to buy the tile, in a gold starved game? Or perhaps we should wait 99 turns until our city expands to that point. Hmm.

Everyone expects the Fireaxis Inquisition!

[Lady Grey]

I would hardly call this a "gold starved game". I don't remember ever having this much cash in a civ game so easily.

There were two problems with chopping of forests: 1 is that it provided production to your nearest city, even from halfway around the world. 2 is that you could use it offensively to wreck a competitor's production.

It was fun while it lasted but was definitely an exploit.

[Mansen]

Removing resources outside of your territory is definitely an issue - Not being able to place things like Aerodomes and Forts anywhere is really bad for strategy.

To me it seems like you just need to be place such things ON the forests - Then remove them later and the forest is still there.

[Bouncer]

Originally posted by Matimus:

I would hardly call this a "gold starved game". I don't remember ever having this much cash in a civ game so easily.

There were two problems with chopping of forests: 1 is that it provided production to your nearest city, even from halfway around the world. 2 is that you could use it offensively to wreck a competitor's production.

It was fun while it lasted but was definitely an exploit.

I think the second one is a big reason why it was fully removed rather than adjusted. I think being able to destroy bonus/luxury resources near another players' territory would be very strong and annoying, and being able to destroy strategic resources like Oil and Uranium be downright crippling.

I do think forts should be able to be build outside of territory on non-resource tiles. Other than that, good riddance.