I just can't get Pizza Party....

[Abalister]

I've been achievement hunting since the beginning, achieved all of them with vanilla conditions and I eventually got the various achievements by playing a lot of different map setups.

For the life of me, I can't get the 3 Great People needed for Pizza Party to spawn. I get 2 of them, I get 1, but I never seem to get the 3 of them. One time, I successfully got all 3, but after founding more than 30 cities, New York wasn't one of them.

I mean, it shouldn't be that hard to get this achievement. Any tips from players who got it? Was it pure luck? Did you start in ancient era? Did you start right away in the era associated with the Great People? If your answer is using a mod or a cheat program, I'm not interested.

But how the bloody heck did you guys do it?

Hard achievements are exciting, but there's a limit. LOL

[Jirki88]

I managed to get the Great People, but then I had to cycle through pretty much all USA possible city names before New York appeared (the list of cities is limited though, so just keep building cities and you'll get it eventually, before it starts cycling some other civilizations names). And yeah, start in Ancient Era... the problem is that there's wonders and such that can trigger Great People which means you can miss something. Certain civilizations choose policies allowing them to earn some great people faster too. The achievement is pretty hit-or-miss (but nothing compared to that #"/%=#(%&#& achievement that requires the continent of Nena. Still haven't seen it.

Also, that might be complicated up if there is another USA on the map (not sure how city names work in that case).

[Cyprus Hillbilly]

Go to CivFanatics and download the Save file.

[Raskol]

The savefile is also on Steam. Alt-tab while you're in game, and/or look at the Community section for Civ 6. Do a search for the achievement name + save file.

[Abalister]

Originally posted by Jirki88:

I managed to get the Great People, but then I had to cycle through pretty much all USA possible city names before New York appeared (the list of cities is limited though, so just keep building cities and you'll get it eventually, before it starts cycling some other civilizations names). And yeah, start in Ancient Era... the problem is that there's wonders and such that can trigger Great People which means you can miss something. Certain civilizations choose policies allowing them to earn some great people faster too. The achievement is pretty hit-or-miss (but nothing compared to that #"/%=#(%&#& achievement that requires the continent of Nena. Still haven't seen it.

Also, that might be complicated up if there is another USA on the map (not sure how city names work in that case).

Thanks for all the help. But I thought the way we play the game didn't influence the pre-loaded Great People?! I was under the impression that Great People are part of the game seed (same as resources) and no matter how you play, it's the same list of Great People that will appear.

Mmmm.

Also, I tried getting this achievement with just 1 opponent (I'm Roosevelt, and I choose whoever easy), on a huge map, with easy settings, and the pre-load of Great People never offers the three of them.

One time, like I said in the OP, I had all three GP, I was very happy, but after 30+ founded cities, New York never appeared.

[Abalister]

Originally posted by The Hunger:

Go to CivFanatics and download the Save file.

Originally posted by soundwave_uk:

The savefile is also on Steam. Alt-tab while you're in game, and/or look at the Community section for Civ 6. Do a search for the achievement name + save file.

I prefer to get it randomly, with all the tools provided by the game, in the advanced setup options, full vanilla of course.

But thanks for the info.

[Raskol]

No worries, I can understand that, and is the reason why I have not got the achievement yet either.

Doesn't renaming a city to New York work at all?

[Abalister]

Originally posted by soundwave_uk:

No worries, I can understand that, and is the reason why I have not got the achievement yet either.

Doesn't renaming a city to New York work at all?

No clue.

Again, no tempering with anything, I want it naturally. Making the game easier by tweaking with the advanced setup options is fine (it's provided by the game after all), but that's as far as I will go to get the achievements. :D

[SamBC]

I believe that it's possible to get all the great people on any given map - the order within eras is somewhat random, and once you (or any other civ) advance an era, the next great person of that type will be from the new era, skipping the rest of the previous era.

[Jirki88]

Originally posted by Abalister:

Originally posted by Jirki88:

I managed to get the Great People, but then I had to cycle through pretty much all USA possible city names before New York appeared (the list of cities is limited though, so just keep building cities and you'll get it eventually, before it starts cycling some other civilizations names). And yeah, start in Ancient Era... the problem is that there's wonders and such that can trigger Great People which means you can miss something. Certain civilizations choose policies allowing them to earn some great people faster too. The achievement is pretty hit-or-miss (but nothing compared to that #"/%=#(%&#& achievement that requires the continent of Nena. Still haven't seen it.

Also, that might be complicated up if there is another USA on the map (not sure how city names work in that case).

Thanks for all the help. But I thought the way we play the game didn't influence the pre-loaded Great People?! I was under the impression that Great People are part of the game seed (same as resources) and no matter how you play, it's the same list of Great People that will appear.

Mmmm.

Also, I tried getting this achievement with just 1 opponent (I'm Roosevelt, and I choose whoever easy), on a huge map, with easy settings, and the pre-load of Great People never offers the three of them.

One time, like I said in the OP, I had all three GP, I was very happy, but after 30+ founded cities, New York never appeared.

I'm not sure how it works, I guess I may have gotten lucky, but I haven't really noticed any variation in Great People. :S

And yeah, as I said, just keep founding cities. You were just unlucky - I believe there's ~40 possible city names of a civilization before it starts cycling through another civ.

[mftuchman]

I just got it, and here are my observations.

• Standard speed was sufficient.
  
• I think using a huge map helps (but I'm not certain of this) in getting all of the necessary GP to be in the game. On my first go on a standard map, it skipped over Donatello. I checked that no other civ had him or any of his works.
  
• Depending on how much of a challenge you want, choose your competitors accordingly based on their propensity to go for culture early on, or lack thereof.
  
• You gotta have faith, especially early since the Renaissance artists come at the beginning of the game. It helps to buy them with faith. I built a holy site in my first three cities with good adjacency bonuses.
  
• The patronage strategy simplified my life since it is equally effective with great engineers as it is with great artists.
  
• Keep an eye on the GP window every single turn.
  
• The Oracle wonder is great to have in this regard since it reduces your faith patronage cost.
  
• If you get your religion early, get Jesuit Education Belief to speed up your Theater District Growth by buying needed buildings with faith. If not, no worries. I didn't have it.
  
• If available, get the religious belief that gives +4 faith for each wonder. I forgot the name. I'll go look it up and edit this later.
  
• Focus on banking faith rather than spending it on missionaries or Apostles (except to evangelize faith-multiplying beliefs). I had four Apostles for the entire game, and I got two of those from the Mahabodi Temple wonder.
  
• I built a theater district in my first four cities, then campuses in my next three. This is not really a good winning strategy, but it helps for the achievement since great artist points come rolling in.
  
• Having Valetta city-state in the game made my time easier, since I could buy city improvements with faith using its unique bonus once I became the suzerain. Of course, you may not get this on your map, but if you do, use it.
  
• When building cities, New York comes up among the first six like 90% of the time. I am not sure if renaming the city affects the achievement. Given that it took me several hours, I didn't want to risk it. I just used the city names generated by the game without editing. If it doesn't show up in the first six, I recommend starting over.
  
• A capable military is helpful in any game. Or, you could turn off barbarians.

I hope this helps some people. There's more than one way to do it, of course.

Hopefully, the game will also inspire you to visit some of these works in real life.

[Off u go]

Play on standart speed on huge map.
You only need to get great engineer, two other great artits let enemies to get. And capture them. Easy.

[Abalister]

Originally posted by brokengear_:

Play on standart speed on huge map.
You only need to get great engineer, two other great artits let enemies to get. And capture them. Easy.

These artists and engineers are not the same that spawns on each game. Hence the reason why it's one of the most difficult achievement in the game.

[Off u go]

Originally posted by Abalister:

Originally posted by brokengear_:

Play on standart speed on huge map.
You only need to get great engineer, two other great artits let enemies to get. And capture them. Easy.

These artists and engineers are not the same that spawns on each game. Hence the reason why it's one of the most difficult achievement in the game.

Well, if you could not get them on standart speed, try marathon...
I've got it quite easy...
Hope you'll be more lucky next time!

[Abalister]

Originally posted by brokengear_:

Originally posted by Abalister:

These artists and engineers are not the same that spawns on each game. Hence the reason why it's one of the most difficult achievement in the game.

Well, if you could not get them on standart speed, try marathon...
I've got it quite easy...
Hope you'll be more lucky next time!

I played standard and marathon.. both of them. It doesn't matter. A pool of Great People is pre-loaded with the game seed number, and a certain number of Great People will appear... fast game or not. Speed ain't related.

[Abalister]

I still have a hard time with this achievement. I even tried to play as slow as I could, trying to stay within the Renaissance era as long as I could, and Da Vinci never appears in the list of Engineers... No other opponent recuited him. The randomness of Great People offered on each seed is too hard. What are the chances to get all 3 GP for a standard game? We'll never know.

I'm out of options. I started at least 20+ different games, on settler settings mind you, and there's always at least 1 GP that will never be offered, the list of GP is always different, no civ in the game recruited them, it's just not offered in the list. And the renaissance era comes and ends too quickly, it skips to the industrial era way too fast (even if I try to delay it as long as I could).

I even started a few games where I had so much faith that I was able to buy A LOT of GP, and there's always 1 of the 3 missing from the list. I can't even steal the great work from another player because other players can't have access to them either.

Is there a seed number or at least a specific way to set up the game to attract these 3 GP in the same game?

I'm out of ideas. And I don't want to cheat for it.