METAL GEAR SOLID V: THE PHANTOM PAIN

METAL GEAR SOLID V: THE PHANTOM PAIN

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Will Solid open his own PMC in MGSVI?
Metal Gear I-II is respectivly MGS3 for Solid (work as government agent), MGSI, II & VI is respectivly Portable Ops (work as sole proprietorship), so will he build his own (closed?) joint-stock company, his own Outer Heaven, with his own Metal Gear?

Also, will he follow the example of his Sensei, will he became cyber-ninja in MGSVII?
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MGSVI is probably going to be remakes of the original Metal gears 1-2, if not continuations of Raiden's story, seeing as Solid is heavily implied to be dead by revengance.

Solid "opening his own PMC" might not have ever happened exactly, but him and Otacon starting Philanthropy in MGS2, and seeking to destroy all Metal Gears and work towards nuclear disarmerment seems to be in the same vein. Solid and Otacon in Philanthropy being like Big Boss and Kaz in MSF/Diamond Dogs. Except, where MSF built their own metal gear and fed off the global war economy, Philanthropy sought world peace through nuclear disarmament and deconstruction of all Metal Gear type weapons.
Последно редактиран от MrFluffyWolf; 9 ноем. 2014 в 11:05
MSF tried to establish world wide peace through the victory of communism, sorry for the tautology, when Philanthropy just fought for money and tried to not let Liquid transform the planet in the one big Africa.
And... Miller? What about Otacon's father?
Последно редактиран от Angry Video Game Noob; 11 ноем. 2014 в 12:17
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MSF tried to establish world peace through the victory of communism, sorry for the tautology, when Philanthropy just fought for money and tried to not let Liquid transform the planet in the one big Africa.
And... Kaz? What about Otacon's father?
Huey and Hal may have been father and son, and Otacon and Solid worked together in the same manner, but Otacon ALSO co-founded and co-owned Philanthropy in the same way Kaz was Big Boss's right hand man.
Where in the rhetoric of MSF did they mention communism in any way, or did they at any point function as one? And how did Philanthropy fight for money? Nuclear disarmarment was their primary goal, and that is all they faught for or cared about, money was never a part of it.
If they were TRULY in it for money, they would have capitalized on the growing demand for Metal Gear type weapons, and the means to counter them. So if ANYONE was making a profit over the growing war economy, it was MSF, a countryless, ideology-less band of mercenaries whose only purpose in life was to fulfill military contracts and bring in untold millions of dollars.
Последно редактиран от MrFluffyWolf; 9 ноем. 2014 в 22:03
Do you want to say that Big Boss had to become millionaire before 1974? MSF's capitalization began to grow rapidly only after they became part of Soviet secret ops. Mother Base is Soviet investment, which is soon became home of Nicaraguan and Costa Rican communists. Also, Big Boss and Kazuhira was huge fans of el Che and la Fidel long before.

Why Patriots was in no hurry to turn Solid in to another PMC owner? Because he already was well oiled cog of war economy since MGS1.
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Do you want to say that Big Boss had to become millionaire before 1974? MSF's capitalization began to grow rapidly only after they became part of Soviet secret ops. Mother Base is Soviet investment, which is soon became home of Nicaraguan and Costa Rican communists.
Let me stop you right there.
MSF Only worked for the soviets because the soviet agent that came with Paz to their shack on the beach presented him with a recording with The Boss's voice on it, leading him to believe she was alive. He could not have cared any LESS about communisim, capitalism, or any poliical ideology, he only cared about The Boss and fufilling her will. He only worked with the soviets so far as it it helped him know if The Boss was alive or not.
Mother Base was given to MSF as payment for accepting the mission. From that point onward MSF had full ownership, NOT the Kremlin. It was payment for service.
The Sandonistas were only given shelter on MSF because they were useful to Big Boss at the time, and all praise of El Che was given by the Sandonistas not Big Boss or Kaz. Fidel Castro was not at any point even mentioned beyond when they were discussing the Cubal missle crisis (and I just played MGS3 and Peace Walker through again a few days ago.)

MSF's whole point and purpose was that it had no country, no political ideology, not capitalist, not communist, not ANYTHING. Big Boss's main take-away from what happened to The Boss is that all countries, Communist AND Capitalist, mearly use and abuse their soldiers until they no longer have use and hang them up to dry. He had no politics. Only an ideology that he believed in, one where soldiers should form armies under their own control, take the missions they see fit, and not answer to ANY government or political agenda besides their own. The last thing they could possibly fight for at that point is personal survival and profit. They were war incarnate. Nothing less, nothing more.
That's why Ocelot and Big Boss did overthrowed Patriots - to clear a way for small businessmen, such as Boris and Solid.

And you should listen briefing files once again, especially about Cuba and Japan, Kaz and Big Boss ARE honored Castro as living hero and bewailed about Guevara's death.

Also, it's Chiko and Paz were saved by Big Boss in Ground Zeroes.
Последно редактиран от Angry Video Game Noob; 13 ноем. 2014 в 2:52
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Metal Gear I-II is respectivly MGS3 for Solid (work as government agent), MGSI, II & VI is respectivly Portable Ops (work as sole proprietorship), so will he build his own (closed?) joint-stock company, his own Outer Heaven, with his own Metal Gear?

Also, will he follow the example of his Sensei, will he became cyber-ninja in MGSVII?
Not sure if trolling or my English is that bad? :)
I really wish that the MGS series would stop at The Phantom Pain. I mean, the story is excellent and rich enough as it is. Does Kojima really need to expand it more just because the fans demand it? Solid Snake already had his glorious send off at 4 and Big Boss' transformation will evidently be the focus on 5. Some videogames are better off kept to a minimum; especially one as innovative and timeless like MGS.

If it's something, why not broaden their audience by releasing MGS: The Legacy Collection to the Xbox brand and PC.
Metal Gear remake will be part of the phantom pain, the outer heaven logo in e3's trailer will mean more than a 20 minute formation of outer heaven at the end of the game.

Just my theory

As for VI?
Your guess is as good as mine.
In MGSVI, Solid Snack is a rotting wormfood corpse.
Solid Snake is dead after MGS4.
Nano-machines, son.
And cyber-augmentation.
there will be no MGSVI or MGS6 since Kojima officially confirmed that MGS5 will be the end of the franchise!
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there will be no MGSVI or MGS6 since Kojima officially confirmed that MGS5 will be the end of the franchise!

That's been the case for every single MGS since 2.
He's dead or probably in a wheelchair.In a japanese DLC for MGR,there's a wooden sword called "Snake's spirit".
"Hebidamashii
A weapon exclusive to the Japanese version of the game, the Hebidamashii (蛇魂? Snake Spirit) is available as part of the VR Missions DLC released in March 2013 and can be purchased in-game for 10,000 BP. It is a mystical wooden sword created through the latest advancements in "spiritual technology" in order to pass on the wisdom of the legendary Solid Snake to future generations. It plays a variety of voiced quotes from Solid Snake depending on the situation (i.e. if Raiden encounters one of the Men In Boxes, the Hebidamashii will remark that "people who like cardboard boxes can't be that bad"). Its combat capabilities are otherwise similar to the standard Wooden Sword."
Basically meaning he's dead.
Последно редактиран от Saint Pablo; 17 дек. 2014 в 3:47
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