FOB- Guards are in the containers

[taurayi]

When I'm invading a player's base, sometimes when I fulton a container, a guard is inside the container and automatically spots me. I try to shoot them when the game goes into reflex mode but the guard can't be shot because the container is still in the process of fultoning. During this process there is an invisible box around the guard that can't be penetrated.

What can I even do in this situation? Reflex runs out and the base goes into alert way before the fultoning finishes and the invisible box clears.

Is there a way to know beforehand if there is a guard inside?

[wotbop]

Play snake and use sonar or turn off reflex
Use rocket launcher

[vIDe]

Why are you extracting containers when there's security around? Isn't a material containter a low priority target?

[~⁧⁧kapacb]

Sounds like a lie

[taurayi]

Originally posted by wotbop:

Play snake and use sonar or turn off reflex
Use rocket launcher

I'll try to use the sonar but I suspect that they are spawning right as I fulton the container but doesn't hurt to try it out I suppose. I think turning off the reflex would be worse because they spot me either way.

Originally posted by vIDe:

Why are you extracting containters when there's security around? Isn't a material containter a low priority target?

I need the materials from the containers to buy higher level security devices for my base. Sometimes I do a FOB mission to farm materials and sometimes I do it to farm high level soldiers.

Originally posted by kapacb:

Sounds like a lie

Not a lie, unless there is a soldier standing behind the container that I didn't see and I'm just mistaken about the whole thing but this has happened multiple times. I'll try and take a screenshot next time.

[~⁧⁧kapacb]

Originally posted by taurayi:

Originally posted by wotbop:

Play snake and use sonar or turn off reflex
Use rocket launcher

I'll try to use the sonar but I suspect that they are spawning right as I fulton the container but doesn't hurt to try it out I suppose. I think turning off the reflex would be worse because they spot me either way.

Originally posted by vIDe:

Why are you extracting containters when there's security around? Isn't a material containter a low priority target?

I need the materials from the containers to buy higher level security devices for my base. Sometimes I do a FOB mission to farm materials and sometimes I do it to farm high level soldiers.

Originally posted by kapacb:

Sounds like a lie

Not a lie, unless there is a soldier standing behind the container that I didn't see and I'm just mistaken about the whole thing but this has happened multiple times. I'll try and take a screenshot next time.

1)they dont spawn in them (at least i didnt encountered this if you are right it should be easy to pinpoint in which waters which platfor has this issue, cause spawn points are written sepeartly for every deck)
2)guards got knockback with KO, when they are close to container that being fulton (at least by portal)

[taurayi]

Originally posted by kapacb:

Originally posted by taurayi:

I'll try to use the sonar but I suspect that they are spawning right as I fulton the container but doesn't hurt to try it out I suppose. I think turning off the reflex would be worse because they spot me either way.



I need the materials from the containers to buy higher level security devices for my base. Sometimes I do a FOB mission to farm materials and sometimes I do it to farm high level soldiers.



Not a lie, unless there is a soldier standing behind the container that I didn't see and I'm just mistaken about the whole thing but this has happened multiple times. I'll try and take a screenshot next time.

1)they dont spawn in them (at least i didnt encountered this if you are right it should be easy to pinpoint in which waters which platfor has this issue, cause spawn points are written sepeartly for every deck)
2)guards got knockback with KO, when they are close to container that being fulton (at least by portal)

It happened again and here is a screenshot:

https://ibb.co/gmsmnzN

It's not the best screenshot so I'm going to try and record a video instead.

[~⁧⁧kapacb]

Originally posted by taurayi:

Originally posted by kapacb:

1)they dont spawn in them (at least i didnt encountered this if you are right it should be easy to pinpoint in which waters which platfor has this issue, cause spawn points are written sepeartly for every deck)
2)guards got knockback with KO, when they are close to container that being fulton (at least by portal)

It happened again and here is a screenshot:

https://ibb.co/gmsmnzN

It's not the best screenshot so I'm going to try and record a video instead.

Yeah, better record a video

[niralamart000]

oof how sad the steam community are such noobs on the subject that they couldn't even tell you about the engine limit. Basically they are already there besides you but are only interactable when you do stuff like fulton , the engine can't handle to many guards in one place so they "spawn" in during these moments. Heck on the core door platform you can even be near the invisible noise that talks to CP if no other guards are present, his noise gets louder and louder for example when you are near the stairs of the development platfrom.


My advice make sure no guards are coming towards you to investigate and do a round check on the crates to make sure nothing fishy happens, or throw smoke around containers so guards get caught in it when they are allowed in.

[!RJ_Truth]

Originally posted by vIDe:

Why are you extracting containters when there's security around? Isn't a material containter a low priority target?

I used to do that a lot. More so when I needed PM, but still wanted to ghost. Extract any PM containers along the way while still ghosting is likely goal. Though in 6 years and over 5000 hours, I've never seen one inside a container.

I've seen some randomly spawn, which is probably what is happening and you can't fix that random glitch. You can shoot the device that triggers it though. (more for the OP than you) and that should preven the random spawn glitch happening at the containers I would think. I also make it a habbit of immediately going prone (dive) once I extract any containers which can help getting away from the random spawn point.

[!RJ_Truth]

Originally posted by taurayi:

It happened again and here is a screenshot:

https://ibb.co/gmsmnzN

It's not the best screenshot so I'm going to try and record a video instead.

That looks like he's next to it, not inside of it, but that doesn't matter as much as..... why are you carring the SB and not the RP on a lethal base? RP for armored lethal guys, SP for Non-Lethal guys. RP is instant sleep for armored guys. SB is instant sleep for Non-Lethal guys. If you don't have it yet, do the FOB Events till you get the blueprint for it. You need the right tools for the job.

Most of the time your FOB load out should consist of.

RGL-220 (STN) - For PVP to STN opponents from a deck over. Also helps trigger alerts
MRS-71 - Sniper Rifle customized with 300 round drum mag. Great for PVP (Some guys prefer mag with fewer rounds in leiu of having an underbarrel weapon customization, but that's a personal choice)
AM A114 RP - Instant sleep for Armored guys.

I also carry...

Hand Grenades - Used only if Combat alerts have been triggered
Smoke Grenades - used to block Camera View
Sleep grenades - To sleep multiple people
FOM Decoy - Shows opponent 2 places where you could be on their iDroid instead of 1
WH Generator - so you are transported elsewhere if they happen to sleep you or kill you

Noctocyanin - To see where they're at since you can't have DD on FOB
Smoke Box - If I'm going to tank a mine, I'll take it in a smoke box helps to hide you.
City Box - Boxing in and out helps get rid of Combat alert faster, they loose track of where you are. Also good for PVP so they loose your position. You can carry more than 2 types of boxes for this purpose. I've just never needed more than 2.
NVG - Helps highlight where people are.

That's all I got for you. Peace.

[taurayi]

https://sendvid.com/5upe9e4i

Watch around 3:20.

@niralamart000 Maybe that's what it is.
@GeekDoctor Mainly because it has more ammo.

[vIDe]

Originally posted by GeekDoctor:

Originally posted by vIDe:

Why are you extracting containters when there's security around? Isn't a material containter a low priority target?

I used to do that a lot. More so when I needed PM, but still wanted to ghost. Extract any PM containers along the way while still ghosting is likely goal.

It's alright, I personally don't think it's worth the time and risk, especially when you fulton white PM containers, 50 PM inside each one, what's the point? It's a different story when all the guards are dead of course, might as well take it.

[vIDe]

Originally posted by taurayi:

https://sendvid.com/5upe9e4i

Watch around 3:20.

@niralamart000 Maybe that's what it is.
@GeekDoctor Mainly because it has more ammo.

Good video, the guard really was inside the container. What the hell?

[taurayi]

Originally posted by vIDe:

Originally posted by taurayi:

https://sendvid.com/5upe9e4i

Watch around 3:20.

@niralamart000 Maybe that's what it is.
@GeekDoctor Mainly because it has more ammo.

Good video, the guard really was inside the containter. What the hell?

Well at least now I know I'm not crazy.

Maybe this was always a thing but no one tries to extract all the material containers every FOB mission like me so they never triggered it.

I don't know if it's something random that happens or if something specific triggers it and/or makes it more likely to happen.

Luckily we're getting double the materials for completing fob missions right now so I'm just going to do runs on FOB missions(normally) for double the materials.

[vIDe]

You can extract containers when you're inside a carboard box, have you tried that? Nothing else comes to mind atm.