METAL GEAR SOLID V: THE PHANTOM PAIN

METAL GEAR SOLID V: THE PHANTOM PAIN

Trainers ruining FOBs?
This is a port..and that is exactly what scares me, I truly hope things like trainers that manipulate resources for quickly building security measures(Also rendering leaderboards useless) and what not will be ruled out and enforced.The cheating is another issue entirely..Pls let this work.
Last edited by A Smart Idiot; Aug 17, 2015 @ 6:09pm
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Jesse Aug 17, 2015 @ 6:11pm 
How could getting all the resources make things unfair? More challenge = greater reward. The trailer narrator made that clear.
Icebound Aug 17, 2015 @ 6:13pm 
Originally posted by Hegemony:
How could getting all the resources make things unfair? More challenge = greater reward. The trailer narrator made that clear.

Good luck fighting the guy with infinite HP.
A Smart Idiot Aug 17, 2015 @ 6:30pm 
Originally posted by Hegemony:
How could getting all the resources make things unfair? More challenge = greater reward. The trailer narrator made that clear.
Yes but its the frame of time, the people that cheat will overpower the people that dont until enough time passes for those people to catch up, not to mention the cheats the trainers offer such as teleport and making yourself undetectable etc and of course infinite hp

eg say the guy wasnt cheating in ways that make it unplayable because if there was any kind of enforcement he would be banned for that

But using a trainer in offline mode to boost resources gives him a SIGNIFICANT boost in terms of equipment/secuirty, and i may be wrong but given previous games this kind of stuff isnt really enforced and it cant be server sided because it can be done offline so
idk its early to really say anything so its all speculation
Last edited by A Smart Idiot; Aug 17, 2015 @ 6:35pm
Sand Aug 17, 2015 @ 6:44pm 
If someone cheats, then cheat back.
Middy Aug 17, 2015 @ 6:54pm 
Originally posted by 影様:
If someone cheats, then cheat back.
And that's how you screw over an entire community.
MushoPork Aug 17, 2015 @ 8:22pm 
Originally posted by A Smart Idiot:
This is a port..and that is exactly what scares me, I truly hope things like trainers that manipulate resources for quickly building security measures(Also rendering leaderboards useless) and what not will be ruled out and enforced.The cheating is another issue entirely..Pls let this work.
Just because the ability is there does not mean that people will always use it. Dark souls 2 allows for trainers to be used, but that doesn't mean that you find people who actively use them in multiplayer.
Samurai Aug 17, 2015 @ 8:27pm 
Originally posted by Jesus Christ:
Just because the ability is there does not mean that people will always use it. Dark souls 2 allows for trainers to be used, but that doesn't mean that you find people who actively use them in multiplayer.

Eh... what? I fought plenty of cheaters in DS2 while invading and in arena. They are more common in the arena settings though.

Haven't played for a while but i doubt that changed much.

Edit: No anti-cheat solution will kill leaderboards fast like in any other game. Can't really remember a single one which was not compromised.

The first few weeks it should hopefully be a bit playable with the FOB's and if it gets too extreme just turn it off. It's a crappy solution but nothing else you can do. Maybe the real cheater infestation only starts to appear after MGO is released, not saying that this would be any better though.
Last edited by Samurai; Aug 17, 2015 @ 8:40pm
Garudin Aug 17, 2015 @ 9:33pm 
Originally posted by Dark All Night:
Wish konami was smart and did something like Rockstar with their cheating pool. Cheaters will be able to play online, but only against other cheaters.

Cheaters in GTA are straight up banned, there is no "cheaters pool" only a bad player pool which consists of many different things even just trolling other characters.

Cheating in GTA is common place to the point that players getting banned is such a celebrated thing because Rockstar doesn't know their ass from their elbow when it came to designing their online system.
1337bignose Aug 17, 2015 @ 10:40pm 
Bandainamco's Dark Souls 1/2 PC version Anti Cheat administration is worst nightmare i ever seen.

i hope some Personal Blacklist function add to FOB.
(base on steam community ban or UniqueCode id)
Last edited by 1337bignose; Aug 17, 2015 @ 10:42pm
Kazuhira Fiddles Aug 18, 2015 @ 1:15am 
This is not a port to PC. Fox Engine is a multi-platform engine. Early footage of TPP and Ground Zeroes was shown on a PC with simlar specs to a ps4 and ps3. TPP and Ground Zeroes have been devloped on PC but were only announced for a PC release later on.
Last edited by Kazuhira Fiddles; Aug 18, 2015 @ 1:15am
Welp ;-;
Dark Exile Aug 21, 2015 @ 3:34am 
Originally posted by 1337bignose:
Bandainamco's Dark Souls 1/2 PC version Anti Cheat administration is worst nightmare i ever seen.

i hope some Personal Blacklist function add to FOB.
(base on steam community ban or UniqueCode id)

DS1-2 were held on a peer to peer network and had character data saved on your PC, data that is easily manipulated in a few seconds.
There are ways to get around that, it just depends if konami bothered to implement the systems for it.
Or if its server based which they havent bothered to say yet.
Last edited by Dark Exile; Aug 21, 2015 @ 3:34am
LurkingChaosFox Sep 30, 2015 @ 12:27pm 
Originally posted by Li:
If someone cheats, then cheat back.
And that, I'll admit, I've been using the mgs 5 trainer offline to boost my base, however currently I have yet unlock the fob feature. And probably never will.
#offlineplayer.
Today's cheater seem to forget the actual purpose of cheating, if you want to cheat a game, never do it online, you'll end up spoiling the fun of others
Last edited by LurkingChaosFox; Sep 30, 2015 @ 12:30pm
Setora Sep 30, 2015 @ 12:29pm 
Originally posted by Dark All Night:
Wish konami was smart and did something like Rockstar with their cheating pool. Cheaters will be able to play online, but only against other cheaters.
That kind of sounds retarded lol but Id like to watch two cheater playing against each other
LurkingChaosFox Sep 30, 2015 @ 12:31pm 
Originally posted by SephirothCetras:
Originally posted by Dark All Night:
Wish konami was smart and did something like Rockstar with their cheating pool. Cheaters will be able to play online, but only against other cheaters.
That kind of sounds retarded lol but Id like to watch two cheater playing against each other
It'll be like that old Cartoon Network late night celebrity showdown. looool
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