Does anyone else find playing the old ones difficult?

[Saint Pablo]

So I'm killing time by re-playing the old MGS games.However I find it difficult trying to replay 1,2,& 3 because of the clunky controls.Don't get me wrong,the 3rd game is my favorite but going back to it I just can't put up with the shooting mechanics.I'm going all stealth yet trying to set up a shot is a phantom pain.Puns aside,it's hard to play the previous entries when their controls feel so outdated.
EDIT:The 3DS version feels so much better than the console versions.It has 3rd person aiming,updated character models,more audio & there's a reload button this time around.

[Mutant1988]

The controls of MGS 3 aren't outdated. They're just bad, period.

Analog face buttons does not make for good sight (Press slightly) and firing controls (Press fully). Likewise, the X to crouch then stick to crawl has been a terrible control method ever since the very first game.

[Saint Pablo]

Originally posted by Mutant1988:

The controls of MGS 3 aren't outdated. They're just bad, period.

Analog face buttons does not make for good sight (Press slightly) and firing controls (Press fully).

Thinking back on it,yeah they are bad.The only time I've experienced good control was from the 3DS version where the controls were basically like PW's.It even had a third person view for aiming.

[Mutant1988]

Originally posted by Greed:

Originally posted by Mutant1988:

The controls of MGS 3 aren't outdated. They're just bad, period.

Analog face buttons does not make for good sight (Press slightly) and firing controls (Press fully).

Thinking back on it,yeah they are bad.The only time I've experienced good control was from the 3DS version where the controls were basically like PW's.It even had a third person view for aiming.

The controls in Peace Walker were great. All it really lacked on PSP was a second analog stick. And wouldn't you know, the HD collection version for PS3/Xbox 360 fixed that. :D

[Antdawg]

I have trouble getting any of my friends to play MGS1 becuase of its graphics. It sucks because i know how amazing the story is, but try convincing someone to get invested with ps1 graphics, it's harder than you think lol And i can't show them 2 first! I mean i guess i could try starting the series chronologically but ehhh....

[Saint Pablo]

Originally posted by Herbalz:

I have trouble getting any of my friends to play MGS1 becuase of its graphics. It sucks because i know how amazing the story is, but try convincing someone to get invested with ps1 graphics, it's harder than you think lol And i can't show them 2 first! I mean i guess i could try starting the series chronologically but ehhh....

Surprisingly,no one I know cares about the graphics.It's usually the controls of MGS1 that are a pain for them to get through.

[Mutant1988]

Originally posted by Herbalz:

I have trouble getting any of my friends to play MGS1 becuase of its graphics.

Your friends are bad.

You really should get some better ones.

[Antdawg]

Originally posted by Mutant1988:

Originally posted by Herbalz:

I have trouble getting any of my friends to play MGS1 becuase of its graphics.

Your friends are bad.

You really should get some better ones.

i agree lol

[Ewwokk]

I feel like Snake Eater had the best controls other than possibly GZ lol

[Chaos12Legion]

Yea its been a long time problem with the franshise I feel there is still a bit clunkiness with Ground Zeroes but its miles better than the earlier games and V will improve further. Still not where many of its competitors are controll wise but its really good. :)

[Xray_Doc]

Once you get used to the Snake Eater controls it actually feels really nice.

[JamJackEvo]

Since my PS2 died years ago and I don't own any other console, I had to resort to an emulator to replay MGS3. And I'm using a 360 controller to play it on, but the minor problem I face is the lack of touch sensitivity on the buttons. MGS3 uses this function of the PS2 controller, but the 360 controller has no such flexibility.

I grab a soldier for interrogation, instant throat-slitting, thereby blocking me from enjoying one aspect of the game. I go to first-person view and aim my gun, but since target moved out of range before I could aim properly (the analog sticks on this controller are clunky as hell, and much less sensitive to full-tilts, half-tilts, and the tilts in-between), I wanted to slowly ease on the Weapon button so I don't shoot (like in the PS2) but darn thing shoots a round regardless.

I feel less guilt for replaying the game using save states because of these problems.

[Democracy Officer 0311]

they weren't really difficult. Just they provide a challenge unlike most of the games out today.

[Law]

I find Solid 1 pretty clunky, but the other ones are alright still.

Also I liked the analog face buttons being utilised, I thought it was a nice touch. Probably requires a softer touch than most use with their controllers though.

[Mutant1988]

Originally posted by Law:

I find Solid 1 pretty clunky, but the other ones are alright still.

Also I liked the analog face buttons being utilised, I thought it was a nice touch. Probably requires a softer touch than most use with their controllers though.

That's the thing though. Why should it require a softer touch when every single other game handles aiming and shooting with two separate buttons that are much more intuitive to use?

I can think of only two games that actually use analog face button controls and that's Metal Gear Solid 3 and Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball and the latter used it for a mini-game and pretty much nothing else. That's how great of an idea that was.

[Krainz]

I played them so much that I can get by perfectly. I actually find the controls in MGS 2 and 3 to work just as fine as GZ. At times I do sometimes find myself wrestling GZ's controls more than I ever did with 3 though.