Why is Ocelot helping Big Boss?

[There is no Spoon]

Werent they big enemies in MGS 3? What changed to make Ocelot want to help him?

[Yona™]

the boss

[Chunkarock]

It's because of mutual respect. After MGS3, Ocelot saw Big Boss as both rival and mentor.

[Antdawg]

Ocelot is actually one of they few people who stay loyal to the boss to the very end. Ocelot ends up admiring big boss, almost like a father son relationship, by the end of 3. I mean hell, big boss is the one that suggests he start using revolvers, and ocelot clearly takes that to heart.

[Razas]

what i'm curious to know is when he actually joined diamong dogs and what he's done in the nine years that the boss was in a coma

[Antdawg]

Publicado originalmente por Venom:

what i'm curious to know is when he actually joined diamong dogs and what he's done in the nine years that the boss was in a coma

yea that is a good question, maybe getting intel from the patriots to help big boss? who knows. I'm sure well find out, he's too important to leave out of the plot.

[supirman]

he is Adam

[Chunkarock]

Publicado originalmente por Venom:

what i'm curious to know is when he actually joined diamong dogs and what he's done in the nine years that the boss was in a coma

Probably supporting Major Zero with his plans. After all, Ocelot was a founding member of the Patriots so it wouldn't surprise me if the reason why he was with Diamond Dogs in the first place is because Zero sent him to spy on Snake.

[Bogan]

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what i'm curious to know is when he actually joined diamong dogs and what he's done in the nine years that the boss was in a coma

He's most probably been working for the President since in Snake Eater he was the CIA agent Adam under the President's directive.

[There is no Spoon]

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It's because of mutual respect. After MGS3, Ocelot saw Big Boss as both rival and mentor.

But he tried to kill the boss multiple times in MGS 3 and I havent seen any scenes from Portable Ops or Peacewalker showing he converts to Big Boss's side right?

[Razas]

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Publicado originalmente por Venom:

what i'm curious to know is when he actually joined diamong dogs and what he's done in the nine years that the boss was in a coma

Probably supporting Major Zero with his plans. After all, Ocelot was a founding member of the Patriots so it wouldn't surprise me if the reason why he was with Diamond Dogs in the first place is because Zero sent him to spy on Snake.

I'm inclining more towards that assumption yes, however somewhere along the way he and EVA secretly start to plot against Zero, i'm not sure if we know when, or if it does happen during tpp, if so it'd be nice to see it actually talked about, and happening ( if eva is in the game that is which is unknown at this point )

[Razas]

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Publicado originalmente por Venom:

what i'm curious to know is when he actually joined diamong dogs and what he's done in the nine years that the boss was in a coma

He's most probably been working for the President since in Snake Eater he was the CIA agent Adam under the President's directive.

True but don't forget that he does kill the cia director during MPO ( and tho most of us don't even consider it, the game is canon i think )

[Chunkarock]

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It's because of mutual respect. After MGS3, Ocelot saw Big Boss as both rival and mentor.

But he tried to kill the boss multiple times in MGS 3 and I havent seen any scenes from Portable Ops or Peacewalker showing he converts to Big Boss's side right?

He wasn't trying to kill him. After all, Ocelot was the one sent by the CIA to help Snake retrieve the Philosopher's Legacy. Everything that happens between Ocelot and Snake during Snake Eater is merely friendly banter between the two and a test of who is the better man. Regarding the scenes showing how he converts to Big Boss' side, you won't see any since this is the first game ever to show how Ocelot joined Diamond Dogs and what made him pursue what Big Boss is pursuing.

[Hollywood]

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Probably supporting Major Zero with his plans. After all, Ocelot was a founding member of the Patriots so it wouldn't surprise me if the reason why he was with Diamond Dogs in the first place is because Zero sent him to spy on Snake.

I'm inclining more towards that assumption yes, however somewhere along the way he and EVA secretly start to plot against Zero, i'm not sure if we know when, or if it does happen during tpp, if so it'd be nice to see it actually talked about, and happening ( if eva is in the game that is which is unknown at this point )

Although he was a spy for zero, he resented his policies, especially agter the les enfants terribles project, and Snake not being okay with it, so I guess he doesn't consider Snake an enemy, even further, I'd say he grew pretty fond of him, sorta like a friendly rivalry.

Edit : Eva and him start plotting against zero in 1999 if I remember correctly, after Zanzibar land incident when zero kept Snake artificially alive with nanomachines in order to keep him for potential further cloning.

[Antonio Neto Kosovo]

big enemies on MGS3?

ocelot was sent to help snake. he is ADAM.

and steal the legacy too.

but he was playing double/triple roles.

[Chunkarock]

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I'm inclining more towards that assumption yes, however somewhere along the way he and EVA secretly start to plot against Zero, i'm not sure if we know when, or if it does happen during tpp, if so it'd be nice to see it actually talked about, and happening ( if eva is in the game that is which is unknown at this point )

Although he was a spy for zero, he resented his policies, especially agter the les enfants terribles project, and Snake not being okay with it, so I guess he doesn't consider Snake an enemy, even further, I'd say he grew pretty fond of him, sorta like a friendly rivalry.

And somewhere along the way, Ocelot finally made up his mind that he will support Snake while still being an agent for the Patriots - truly fits with how Ocelot manages being a double/triple spy.