These ported console controls suck so bad. I'm using a razer hydra...

[Shamanik]

and my only problem used to be that Snake would keep running when I stopped pressing my stick to move him until I pressed that same direction again and he would get the signal to stop. (this would only happen maybe once every half hour or hour but when you can't rely on Snake to keep still when you arne't pressing controls even that becomes an issue) But since some patch, now the screen also likes to rotate around the character, if I open the Idroid it just goes moving as fast as it can to the top-left. I was hoping you'd improve the controls, not make them worse.

Plus the online doesn't even work. Konami just sees PC players as a cash base. If you aren't going to do the work in updating the controls then don't bother releasing your games.

Of course, it doesn't help that I unlike most gamers want to look to the future which is motion controllers. Not mice which were invented in the early 80s and are terrible healthwise (carpal tunnel, wrist injury) and not gamepads which are made for Mario and other platformer games and racing games, etc. Supporting this technology (razer hydra motion controller) is a lot easier than it sounds because it works in every PC game you throw at it, except this one is literaly the first one I've had problems with. Beat every Splinter Cell game using it, played about 800 hours in Battlefield 3 and 4 multiplayer EACH and no problems. Sam Fisher never started running off in a direction so why the hell does Snake!?

What is it about this game that makes my controller not work when any other game wouldn't have a problem?

Also, you don't even have a ability to edit the keys for menu's (1 and 3) and zooming map (q and e). Effing lazy. Hopefully I can come back and find this fixed sometime but patches seem to be making it worse as the view never nauseatinly spun around the character before this patch you just did.

[KyrenCross]

I also get that movement issue where snake would keep moving until you press the same direction again for him to stop. It also happens when driving, riding a horse, mech etc. Also sometimes the W,A,D,Q,E won't work in the iDroid, I need to re press TAB again for it to work.

I really hope they patch this as it's really game breaking when using a keyboard and mouse as you can get detected when you don't want to be.

I also hope they add the ability to bind keys for the mouse button 4, 5, 6 etc.

By the way, mouse and keyboard is the best way of playing this game, really immersive than relying on auto aim for the controller. Can't wait for the FOB to unlock so users using a controller would blame keyboard users like us of hacking ^_^.

[Sticky White Stuff]

It's not a shooting game you little ♥♥♥♥. The game was designed around a gamepad. Go buy a gamepad. If you don't want to use a gamepad, use K&M. End of the story. Stop using niche devices that are not a standard.

You don't shoot. You don't aim. You don't need reflexes in this game. So why the hell would you use such a silly toy in the first place? There is nothing premium in garbage.

And people need to learn what a port means. Half of the idiots sprouting nonsense shouldn't even have the right to talk here. All they do is spread misinformation. The game was never ported thus it is not a port, but a PC game. The main input device of this game is a gamepad, which is a PC standard from two decades ago.

[Veruca, Luckiest Girl in Town!]

Why not play with a controller, the way metal gear was meant to be played since MGS1

[Sticky White Stuff]

Because he is using niche devices that were never planned to be used in a sneaking game where there is little to no shooting.

[Shamanik]

It has nothing to do with the motion controller. The game would be fine with it, It's great up until the time it decides I'm moving when I'm not. If a game is still thinking you're moving when you're not giving any input there's a problem! Not with the peripheral, the game.

SHFFLE:No, you're effing stupid and apparently have no way to make a point directly so have to rely on some snide stupid whatever drivvle that was you just posted is.

You can't even buy Hydras anymore since they stopped making them early 2014 because they switched to making the new Sixense Stem, which is $300 (so maybe if you really want one you could ask mommy to combine a birthday and a christmas gift?) and wireless. While you're dragging a mouse on a pad to look around you, I simply tilt my wrist left and right and I've seen everything around me. You're just jealous. Hah. You couldn't even get one of these if you wanted. You're making ignorant comments about something you've never even tried. You're a typical idiot.


Reason they never caught on is because you need to write some code yourself to get them to work the best, and they were $80 with about a year or two shelf life.

V-K:I'm guessing you are using aiming assist? Lol. The second you go to ready your weapon the game aims at the center of mass of closest target for you. It's to give the gamepad kiddies a chance to compete with the keyboard/mouse and motion controller crowd by making it easier for you. BTW, my hydra does have a stick. I can move around with the same kind of analog control you do. Except mine is turned into A,S,D,W input instead of being analog controller input. If I'm not pressing in a direction, then Snake shouldn't be moving. But every now and then it messes up and he started running when I'm not pressing anything.

Death Magic:You don't know what you're talking about and don't tell me what I should do. I don't take advice from rejects and morons. I've beaten every single Tom Clancy game (besides HAWX and ENDGAME series) using a razer hydra and no issues. Played plenty of stealth games using this. It has nothing to do with my controller. It is the game code.

KyranCross:Wow, Thank you. Someone who gets it! You see the problem with the code too. You would like Hydra better than keyboard and mouse I bet though. A hydra isn't a gamepad. It's more like a PC wiimote that relies on magnets instead of an infrared sensor bar. It's great, perfect for the game so far, I just need him to stop freaking moving on his own. But I will see you on that battlefield, mate!

[Sticky White Stuff]

No, it is your input device. The game was not designed around your input device, which is a niche device. Tom Clancy has nothing to do with stealth games whatsoever, so stop playing dumb.

Again. Why would even want to aim in a game when you crawl 90% of the time? Why would you need the extra precision? You don't.

I know everything, and thus i know what i am talking about. You don't even know a port means. Since you don't know the basic definitions of common knowledge, an idiot like you wouldn't possibly understand anything else.

"The game doesn't support my Wiimote Plus. What a terrible game it is."
Of course it freaking doesn't. And the walking/control issue is also something that is not limited to you. Plenty of people have the same issue.
Again, use a real device or stop complaining. I know mommy bought that expensive toy for you, but if the game doesn't support it (and why the hell would it?) then there is nothing you can do.
You should know better than to cry here on the forums looking for answers you won't get. But here is a good one. Get a proper xinput gamepad.

[Shamanik]

Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell isn't a stealth game, sure. Whatever. You're such a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ kid. Try to figure out why and do something about it.

[V-K ◉_◉]

Messaggio originale di Shamanik:

V-K:I'm guessing you are using aiming assist? Lol. The second you go to ready your weapon the game aims at the center of mass of closest target for you. It's to give the gamepad kiddies a chance to compete with the keyboard/mouse and motion controller crowd by making it easier for you. BTW, my hydra does have a stick. I can move around with the same kind of analog control you do. Except mine is turned into A,S,D,W input instead of being analog controller input. If I'm not pressing in a direction, then Snake shouldn't be moving. But every now and then it messes up and he started running when I'm not pressing anything.

I'm not using aim assist, I turned that stuff off immediately. Just because you suck with the controller doesn't mean that I'm a console kiddie, I play 95% PC.

Besides MGS is a console game, the controls were optimized for the gamepad, how idiotic are you that you can't understand that?

[EQOAnostalgia]

Comes here to cry like a child... complains when people treat him like one.

[Battleseed]

Using a wireless 360 controller and works great. No need for over priced garbage to enjoy a video game.

[Ahroovi]

Messaggio originale di KyrenCross:

Also sometimes the W,A,D,Q,E won't work in the iDroid, I need to re press TAB again for it to work.

You sure it's not loading/saving? Check the top right hand corner. When it's got symbols up there, you can't navigate the iDroid. Only time I've ever encountered that. Most of my bugs consist of enemies spotting you through smoke way too easily, and sometimes walls.

[Blackwolfe]

Works fine for me, using m&k. Zero issues.

[SNOW SOS]

You're not using a gamepad for MGS5? rip

[Shamanik]

V-K: I just asked a freaking question. You said it's easy with the controller because they don't move much. I just assumed you had auto-aim on. My bad on that. But "this is a console game", no, this is a PC game. It's on my PC and I will play it the way I play all PC games. This is moot because people using keyboard and mouse controls, if you can read, are experiencing the same thing I'm talking about up above. You're the idiotic one for telling me how to play a game and thinking you know what you're talking about. I'm talking about problem in the code that even people using keyboard and mouse are experiencing. How about you learn to mind your own business and speak when you actually know what you're talking about? Go ahead and look up at KyranCross's comment, then kindly shut the hell up.

Optimized? Gawd, you speak like such a reject. Gamepads are only the best for platformers and racing games. If you're playing a game that involves shooting a gun in 3-d and you're using a gamepad, then you're either poor, stupid, or just don't care much about your gaming experience. But to say it's 'idiotic' to have standards and to use better quality controllers speaks volumes of how ignorant and worthless a person you are, especially when said controller works flawlessly in hundreds of other games just like MGS 5, but has issues in this one. Normally I wouldn't insult you for your choice of controller, but you insulted me first so that's fair play. It's hilarious how when you put a discussion up on Steam you get all these mouthy children who show up that don't even know what they're talking about but like to pretend they do. You've probably never even seen a hydra, let alone used one so just shut your ignorant hole. No one wants to hear your drivvle. I'm sorry you're too stupid to understand a technical issue from one of preference. There is no reason I should have movement if I'm not pressing anything and people using keyboard and mouse experience the same thing because the hydra creates keyboard and mouse input so this is something that effects even people who are playing with M/K.

SNOW SOS: Any 1st or 3rd person shooter I will destroy anyone using mouse/keyboard or gamepad. You haven't ever even used the device I'm talking about, but you assume you know it's not good? You're just like so many other simple-minded idiots out there.

Battleseed:It's sad the concept of having standards escapes you. I like to look to newer, better technology and it's served me very well. I've spent 15 years gaming with keyboard and mouse, and the past 8 years using only a razer hydra (unless it's a racing or flying game). I know when something is wrong with the controller or if it's with the code. Every single game you throw at a razer hydra plays just fine, except this one. They did a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ job and spent very little time updating the controls for a PC environment.

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I wanted to be civil about this. I was trying to highlight my situation and then had a bunch of dingleberry ignorant children show up and tell me it works fine for them, like that info helps at all when I'm not using the setup they are. Gawd, why are people so quick to show off their stupidity? People can't even google something for a second to know what they're talking about?

People like that are everything that is becoming wrong with this country and the new generation. Kids are getting mouthier and stupider.

Blackwolfe:"Works fine for me, using m&k. Zero issues." What the hell good is that input? If you aren't having problems then get out of support topics and go play the game. This may be way over your head, but PCs are all different and hence run into different situations. Telling people something works for you is about the most retarded thing you could say in a support section unless you have the same setup as the person who started the topic.

Furthermore, how can anyone not see how hastily these controls are thrown together? I can think of 5 commands in the game that aren't even editable. Some of us would like to get support so that we can rely on this game just like every other game to work right. This is a sloppy job for $60.

[V-K ◉_◉]

Messaggio originale di Shamanik:

V-K: I just asked a freaking question. You said it's easy with the controller because they don't move much. I just assumed you had auto-aim on. My bad on that. But "this is a console game", no, this is a PC game. It's on my PC and I will play it the way I play all PC games. This is moot because people using keyboard and mouse controls, if you can read, are experiencing the same thing I'm talking about up above. You're the idiotic one for telling me how to play a game and thinking you know what you're talking about. I'm talking about problem in the code that even people using keyboard and mouse are experiencing. How about you learn to mind your own business and speak when you actually know what you're talking about? Go ahead and look up at KyranCross's comment, then kindly shut the hell up.

Optimized? Gawd, you speak like such a reject. Gamepads are only the best for platformers and racing games. If you're playing a game that involves shooting a gun in 3-d and you're using a gamepad, then you're either poor, stupid, or just don't care much about your gaming experience. But to say it's 'idiotic' to have standards and to use better quality controllers speaks volumes of how ignorant and worthless a person you are, especially when said controller works flawlessly in hundreds of other games just like MGS 5, but has issues in this one. Normally I wouldn't insult you for your choice of controller, but you insulted me first so that's fair play. It's hilarious how when you put a discussion up on Steam you get all these mouthy children who show up that don't even know what they're talking about but like to pretend they do. You've probably never even seen a hydra, let alone used one so just shut your ignorant hole. No one wants to hear your drivvle.

SNOW SOS: Any 1st or 3rd person shooter I will destroy anyone using mouse/keyboard or gamepad. You haven't ever even used the device I'm talking about, but you assume you know it's not good? You're just like so many other simple-minded idiots out there.

Battleseed:It's sad the concept of having standards escapes you. I like to look to newer, better technology and it's served me very well. I've spent 15 years gaming with keyboard and mouse, and the past 8 years using only a razer hydra (unless it's a racing or flying game). I know when something is wrong with the controller or if it's with the code. Every single game you throw at a razer hydra plays just fine, except this one. They did a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ job and spent very little time updating the controls for a PC environment.

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I wanted to be civil about this. I was trying to highlight my situation and then had a bunch of dingleberry ignorant children show up and tell me it works fine for them, like that info helps at all when I'm not using the setup they are. Gawd, why are people so quick to show off their stupidity? People can't even google something for a second to know what they're talking about?

No, you weren't civil about this, you come into the forum and whine about how a device that nobody uses or cares about doesn't work for this game. And then you say the gamepad options is for console kiddies or something like that. The Metal Gear series has always been designed for consoles, it's a stealth game, not a shooter but apparently you've never even played a Metal Gear to know that.

If you're playing a game that involves shooting a gun in 3-d and you're using a gamepad, then you're either poor, stupid, or just don't care much about your gaming experience.

Are you serious? So people that played MGS3 or MGS4 are poor or stupid? And that's coming from you who tries to play this game with a f***** Razer Hydra? Motion controls are a joke, if you want precision at least use a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ mouse please.