[SPOILERS] Theory about main character.

[AELDIN]

So i was thinking about the whole, your character is really you know who and not you know what ending. Apparently Ground Zeros was just a sudo memory implanted in medic while he's in a coma but what if it doesn't end there, what if we have never played as big boss and all the games that feature him are just the medics "dreams". I think this might be the case as Snake Eater came out about 9 years ago and medic was in a 9 year coma.

[Ren]

???

I don't follow, you're basically suggesting nothing we've seen of big boss really happened? At least not when we played as him?

This game's ending was already a pretty big middle finger to the fans, doing that would be incredible. Despite Kojima leaving on a fart and not a proper sendoff, I don't think he would do something that terrible.

[AELDIN]

i think he would. the medics already a metaphor for the player in so many ways so why is it a big stretch to say that all the metal gear games that came out while hes in a coma (which happen to be all the ones with big boss in) are the memories which we know he had implanted in him.

[Ren]

Originally posted by AELDIN:

i think he would. the medics already a metaphor for the player in so many ways so why is it a big stretch to say that all the metal gear games that came out while hes in a coma (which happen to be all the ones with big boss in) are the memories which we know he had implanted in him.

What would the point of that be? Are you suggesting all the games prior to this one didn't happen? Or are you suggesting we're simply reliving it through the medic? If it's the latter... What would the point of that be? That changes nothing and is just another way for Kojima to lie to us to make us angry.

[AELDIN]

Reliving them through medic. And what was the point of the "twist anyway other than to transplant the player into the metal gear saga. All i'm saying is perhaps we have been playing as ourselves/Medic for longer than we thought.

[Ren]

Originally posted by AELDIN:

Reliving them through medic. And what was the point of the "twist anyway other than to transplant the player into the metal gear saga. All i'm saying is perhaps we have been playing as ourselves/Medic for longer than we thought.

But reliving them through the medic literally changes nothing besides telling us that what we were doing didn't matter. If we got the medic's version is the story not the exact same? It's just what we were doing was pointless.

The point of the twist was to ♥♥♥♥ over fans who were told we were going to get a story about Big Boss becoming a villian. Instead Kojima wanted to pull a Metal Gear Solid 2 and take a massive turd on Big Boss's legend.

[GrayFoxCZ]

OP: No in Ground Zeroes you were controlling real Big Boss (medic is right next to him)
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As for the ending - well Big Boss really descended into villainy. He went from "All for my men" to "I´ll use one of my men as decoy, so I can begin with formation of Outer Heaven, then I´ll put him in charge of it, while I´ll comandeer FOXHOUND - thus there will be conflict and place for soldiers as the Boss wanted"

[AELDIN]

Damule but what if the character that we all fell in love with wasn't big boss but an edited version of the truth like GZ. What if medic is closer to the big boss we know than the real one.
Evidence for this could be the drastic change to big bosses personality in this game. what if its only now that we are seeing the true big boss.
If this was true I would rather play as medic as he is really the big boss we know.

[Ren]

Originally posted by GrayFoxCZ:

OP: No in Ground Zeroes you were controlling real Big Boss (medic is right next to him)
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As for the ending - well Big Boss really descended into villainy. He went from "All for my men" to "I´ll use one of my men as decoy, so I can begin with formation of Outer Heaven, then I´ll put him in charge of it, while I´ll comandeer FOXHOUND - thus there will be conflict and place for soldiers as the Boss wanted"

We didn't see how or why, they might as well have had the game start out with Big Boss eatting babies. That's about as an effective a story.

[Ren]

Originally posted by AELDIN:

Yes but what if the character that we all fell in love with wasn't big boss but an edited version of the truth like GZ. What if medic is closer to the big boss we know than the real one.
Evidence for this could be the drastic change to big bosses personality in this game. what if its only now that we are seeing the true big boss.
If this was true I would rather play as medic as he is really the big boss we know.

In that case the Medic Didn't do anything still besides MGS 5, and the only time he actually DID do something he had no personality and was a tool that got thrown away.

[AELDIN]

if you remember doing something you might as well have done it. I know how to ride a bike because i remember doing it, not because i did. In the present memories are more tangible than past actions.
(plus i just want to feel better about playing as medic for the whole game)

[Ren]

Originally posted by AELDIN:

if you remember doing something you might as well have done it. I know how to ride a bike because i remember doing it, not because i did. In the present memories are more tangible than past actions.
(plus i just want to feel better about playing as medic for the whole game)

Not really. That would imply brainwashing is fine because your life was like that anyways. I mean that's literally the same as having the ending be "And then he woke up! And it was allll a dream" which is probably the laziest cop out for writing a story.

I get that, I would love to feel better, but instead the more I think about it the more angry I get.

[reanor]

*sigh* *facepalm*

[AELDIN]

Kojimaaaaaaaaaaa!