Worst Things in the Series

[samael21walter]

Just to see if anyone else agrees with me here, the Metal Gear series, as much as I love it, is full of nonsensical stuff. Some of it is quirky and fun, and some of it really makes me wonder what was going through Kojima's head. Think of this as a "Stupidest Metal Gear Things" list.

1. The Fear/Pain/Fury - Probably the three worst bosses ever when it comes to actual powers/personalities. Is it just me, or is a bee man, a freak who crawls like a spider, and a guy who randomly shouts "FURYYY" while wielding a flamethrower a bit stupid? They had little to no personality, and no backstory aside from the Cobra unit. You never cared for them at all.

2. Fury's Fire Head - After defeating the fury, a head-shaped fireball chases after Naked Snake. Not only does this look completely comical, it doesn't make sense whatsoever. What the hell does this even mean? How does Naked Snake now call everyone on a codec and try to explain that a HEAD-SHAPED FIREBALL TRIED TO MURDER HIM?! It's so random and out of the blue it was cringeworthy.

3. Ocelot's Arm - I know the reason behind this. Kojima killed off Liquid in MGS1 because he thought that was the last he'd make. After realizing he was going to continue the series, he found he wanted Liquid back. How does he do this? Make his personality take over Ocelot's body through his ARM. His freaking ARM. Not only that, but in 4, you find out that Ocelot did this to trick the Patriot's AI system...what?! How does that even make sense? At all?

4. The Beauty and the Beast Corps - Probably the worst bosses gameplay-wise, and their backstories were random as hell. They felt like cheap knock-offs of MGS1 characters, and aside from a few cool character designs, they added nothing to the game.

5. Null - Everyone loved Grey Fox/Frank Jeager in MGS1. Did you know he has an origin story in Portable Ops? Don't bother researching it, it's about as stupid as they come. There's a super secret soldier that has his memories wiped after every battle to sharpen his instincts and rid his emotions. What?

6. Peace Walker - This game, to me, is the lowest point of the series so far. Don't get me wrong, it had some fun characters and some funny conversations, but the story was borderline retarded. Couple that with the fact that the game takes place in the Cold War era and has technology even more advanced than MGS4 in the 2010s, and it's a recipe for disaster. Flying singing mech with advanced AI and the soul of a dead legend inhabits a mech. Mech walks into water to avoid firing a nuke because her will is to save the world. What? What?! Again, keep in mind, they have 3+ prototypes of advanced AI FLYING METAL GEARS IN THE FREAKING 70s.

I really love this series to death, it's my favorite, but those things I listed above are a few of the things I find that I just don't get. At all. It's like a creative genius who melded so many movies/games into one great game just had a few moments where he lost his mind.

[BaRt]

Fury is awesome, Portable ops is not canon, Peace walker is a psp game, mgs 4 bosses sucks i agree.Liquid Ocelot is the only thing that confuse me in mgs.......

[samael21walter]

Peace Walker is still canonical, and Portable Ops has some elements that are canonical (at least that's what I've read). The fury was a fun boss, don't get me wrong, but his ramblings make little to no sense, and a fury fireball head chasing Naked Snake doesn't make it any better. The best boss on three, imo, is The End.

[Haethel]

1. I think there is something deeper in it.

3. You are completely wrong, liquid arm does not control the mind of ocelot.

[Mattee]

I loved all the bosses in MGS3. I loved all the bosses in all the games actually, except 4. I didn't like any of the B&B chicks.

One of the most frustrating things to me though was the choke scene in MGS2. I remember when I was a kid playing on the hardest setting that damn choke hold bit with Solidus at the end rekt my fingers lol.

[BaRt]

Publicado originalmente por FIDDLE CASTRO:

Peace Walker is still canonical, and Portable Ops has some elements that are canonical (at least that's what I've read). The fury was a fun boss, don't get me wrong, but his ramblings make little to no sense, and a fury fireball head chasing Naked Snake doesn't make it any better. The best boss on three, imo, is The End.

well i just dont think Null is actually canon at all

[samael21walter]

Publicado originalmente por AzulGS1:

1. I think there is something deeper in it.

3. You are completely wrong, liquid arm does not control the mind of ocelot.

Did you read what I wrote? I know it doesn't. It "explains" it in 4, but the explanation to it all is still absurd.

[samael21walter]

Publicado originalmente por BaRt:

Publicado originalmente por FIDDLE CASTRO:

Peace Walker is still canonical, and Portable Ops has some elements that are canonical (at least that's what I've read). The fury was a fun boss, don't get me wrong, but his ramblings make little to no sense, and a fury fireball head chasing Naked Snake doesn't make it any better. The best boss on three, imo, is The End.

well i just dont think Null is actually canon at all

Let's hope not. I know that Adam/Ocelot taking back the legacy has to be. I wish they would remake/rerelease it with only canonical storyline parts.

[samael21walter]

Publicado originalmente por Mattee:

I loved all the bosses in MGS3. I loved all the bosses in all the games actually, except 4. I didn't like any of the B&B chicks.

One of the most frustrating things to me though was the choke scene in MGS2. I remember when I was a kid playing on the hardest setting that damn choke hold bit with Solidus at the end rekt my fingers lol.

I loved the bosses gameplay-wise in 3. They were extremely fun. I just found the silly powers and lack of a proper bockstory/personality as compared to 1 and 2.

[平和ThePhantomPainウォーカ]

Machinegun Kid.

[solsticedt]

I kinda loved MGS3 bosses, they're quite absurd and It feels very James Bond like. For the rest, I do agree with you

[R!SK]

I guess you're not a sci-fi fan like Kojima or myself.

[57e_Caiden]

Publicado originalmente por AzulGS1:

1. I think there is something deeper in it.

3. You are completely wrong, liquid hand does not control the mind of ocelot.

Liquids arm was causing Ocelots mind to become unstable, that is why he had it removed.

[Death_Sheep]

The Community. Sometimes.

[Putozeros]

If you don't like Peace Walker, then you won't like Phantom Pain.

[samael21walter]

Publicado originalmente por RiSk:

I guess you're not a sci-fi fan like Kojima or myself.

Don't get me wrong, I love sci-fi. Loved every bit of Snatcher and still love the sci-fi elements of Metal Gear. it's the fantasy side of things that sometimes comes in complete contrast with the other parts of the games in my opinion.