METAL GEAR SOLID V: THE PHANTOM PAIN

METAL GEAR SOLID V: THE PHANTOM PAIN

Qwertion Sep 24, 2015 @ 1:43pm
Spoilers
What happens to Venom Snake and the diamond dogs after TPP? VS isn't mentioned in sons of the boss era.
< >
Showing 1-15 of 95 comments
›Kolanaki Sep 24, 2015 @ 1:45pm 
I don't know where people get this theory, but the official wiki says that Venom becomes the Big Boss Solid Snake kills in Metal Gear 1 at Outer Heaven, while the real Big Boss was who you fight in MG2 in Zanibar Land.

However, there is not a damn thing in the series to support that theory other than Big Boss changing codec frequencies; but everyone changes their frequency at that point, not just Big Boss.
Last edited by ›Kolanaki; Sep 24, 2015 @ 1:45pm
joxertm22 Sep 24, 2015 @ 1:45pm 
Originally posted by Qwertion:
What happens to Venom Snake and the diamond dogs after TPP?
Wait for MGS 6.
Last edited by joxertm22; Sep 24, 2015 @ 1:45pm
supertrooper225 Sep 24, 2015 @ 1:46pm 
Venom goes on to lead Outer Heaven and he get's tore the ♥♥♥♥ up by Soild Snake.
Ixao Sep 24, 2015 @ 1:47pm 
It states in the timeline that plays after the final cutscene (there are two timelines, I believe it's in the second one) that Solid Snake kills Venom Snake posing as Big Boss during the Outer Heaven Incident from Metal Gear
Sekkuar666 Sep 24, 2015 @ 1:52pm 
Originally posted by joxertm22:
Wait for MGS 6.

First, probably there won't be a MGS6, and even if there is, it won't be canon since no Kojima;
Secondly, what happens to him is already explained in this game, and in the events of the original Metal Gear game
supertrooper225 Sep 24, 2015 @ 1:55pm 
I strongly doubt there is going to be a Metal Gear Solid 6. It is either going to be a remake of Metal Gear...or nothing at all.
›Kolanaki Sep 24, 2015 @ 1:55pm 
Originally posted by IxaoEclipse:
It states in the timeline that plays after the final cutscene (there are two timelines, I believe it's in the second one) that Solid Snake kills Venom Snake posing as Big Boss during the Outer Heaven Incident from Metal Gear

It just mentions when operation Intrude N313 was and that was the very last thing on the timeline.
Last edited by ›Kolanaki; Sep 24, 2015 @ 1:56pm
supertrooper225 Sep 24, 2015 @ 1:57pm 
Originally posted by › The Cool Side of the Pillow:
Originally posted by IxaoEclipse:
It states in the timeline that plays after the final cutscene (there are two timelines, I believe it's in the second one) that Solid Snake kills Venom Snake posing as Big Boss during the Outer Heaven Incident from Metal Gear

It just mentions when operation Intrude N313 was.

If you look closely in the background in the last scene. You can see the diamond dogs emblem change to Outer Heaven's emblem and you can hear all kinds of gunfire going on outside the door. It gave us a glimpse of Venom right before he died.
Last edited by supertrooper225; Sep 24, 2015 @ 1:57pm
Zorpen Sep 24, 2015 @ 2:01pm 
Originally posted by › The Cool Side of the Pillow:
I don't know where people get this theory, but the official wiki says that Venom becomes the Big Boss Solid Snake kills in Metal Gear 1 at Outer Heaven, while the real Big Boss was who you fight in MG2 in Zanibar Land.

However, there is not a damn thing in the series to support that theory other than Big Boss changing codec frequencies; but everyone changes their frequency at that point, not just Big Boss.
In the last cutscene you can see Outer Heaven logo, and Venom gets the tape with warning about Solid Snake mission.
Bite Sep 24, 2015 @ 2:01pm 
Originally posted by supertrooper225:
I strongly doubt there is going to be a Metal Gear Solid 6. It is either going to be a remake of Metal Gear...or nothing at all.

A Metal Gear spin off could also be a possibility. Konami's website claims to be seeking personnel to work on Metal Gear, not Metal Gear Solid, there may be something behind that.

As for the OP, Diamond Dogs is located in Southeast Africa, while the MG1 Outer Heaven is in South Africa, its possible to think the organization simply expanded (like Kaz says MSF was expanding) until it established bases in near territories.
Qwertion Sep 24, 2015 @ 2:06pm 
Interesting theory. How did VS became a bad guy anyway? I understand that Big Boss joined cipher's cause and zero's interpretation of boss' will is somehow evil or something. But VS looks like a good guy so far.
Zorpen Sep 24, 2015 @ 2:07pm 
Originally posted by Qwertion:
Interesting theory. How did VS became a bad guy anyway? I understand that Big Boss joined cipher's cause and zero's interpretation of boss' will is somehow evil or something. But VS looks like a good guy so far.
He didn't. It's a matter of perspective.
supertrooper225 Sep 24, 2015 @ 2:08pm 
Originally posted by Qwertion:
Interesting theory. How did VS became a bad guy anyway? I understand that Big Boss joined cipher's cause and zero's interpretation of boss' will is somehow evil or something. But VS looks like a good guy so far.

They are mercs waging war for no other reason than money and revenge that didn't really satisfy them. They are already villains in a way.

"There are no facts, only interpretations."
Last edited by supertrooper225; Sep 24, 2015 @ 2:08pm
DragonRisingII Sep 24, 2015 @ 2:11pm 
Originally posted by Qwertion:
What happens to Venom Snake and the diamond dogs after TPP? VS isn't mentioned in sons of the boss era.
Diamond Dogs isn't mentioned, but Big Boss asks Venom to lead Outer Heaven at some point after it's construction. In Metal Gear 1, the rookie Solid Snake is sent there by Big Boss to try and buy time for Venom to finish completing the Metal Gear. It's "buying time," since Solid is a rookie, so it was predicted he'd go slower than anyone else in Foxhound. Well, Solid does much better than expected, leading to Big Boss telling him to abort the mission. Solid doesn't, then goes on to kill "Big Boss," leading to the real Big Boss to leave Foxhound and disappear until the events of MG2
Last edited by DragonRisingII; Sep 24, 2015 @ 2:12pm
Sekkuar666 Sep 24, 2015 @ 2:11pm 
Originally posted by supertrooper225:
Originally posted by Qwertion:
Interesting theory. How did VS became a bad guy anyway? I understand that Big Boss joined cipher's cause and zero's interpretation of boss' will is somehow evil or something. But VS looks like a good guy so far.

They are mercs waging war for no other reason than money and revenge that didn't really satisfy them. They are already villains in a way.

"There are no facts, only interpretations."
+1

He is already a demon, Kaz.
< >
Showing 1-15 of 95 comments
Per page: 1530 50

Date Posted: Sep 24, 2015 @ 1:43pm
Posts: 95