How would the parasite know which language you're speaking

[crua9]

This is something that should've been brought up during the making of this, and I have a feeling that the dev company has a bunch of yes men and no one that can stand up and poke holes in the story.

If you say d ick in german, then it means fat (look it up). In fact I can think of a few words that mean something else in 10 different languages.


(Some one has brought up that it may know what you're saying based on what you meant. The problem with this is it doesn't connect to your brain. Or at least until you speak whatever that triggers it.)

[Sifer2]

It's very simple:

WOLBACHIA


COPULATION


HAMBURGERS

[Outlaw1109]

Originally posted by Suzaku:

Did you listen to all the casette tapes? It seems like you didn't, because in addition to providing an entire evolutionary history for the parasite, they explain how the parasites could be bred to distinguish between different languages. Even similar languages like Spanish and Portugese.

The parasites were "designed" through artificial selection to breed only after sustained exposure to specific rhythms, intonations, and pronunciations. Each strain of parasite has a different language trigger.

More importantly, the parasites weren't perfect. They were unreliable, and Cipher abandonded their research on the vocal cord parasites because it wasn't feasible to breed all the various strains needed to specifically target individual ethnic groups, and it would be easier for them to manipulate and control language digitally, with virtual networks (AKA, the S3 Program from MGS2).

Skull Face revived their research for a single, very specific purpose: to eradicate the English language. He only needed the parasites to be "good enough" to carry out his goal.

To be honest, I did not.

Code talker's VA made the tapes unbearable, for me.

The word Copulation has been stricken from my vocabulary.

[Songbird]

Originally posted by crua9:

Because this is getting to be a troll fest, and no one can find a real answer to this. I'm going to point out again that I'm OK with the magic idea. However, it does turn me off from MGS (but that doesn't matter since there isn't going to be another)

I think to make a game good and for it to be around a story. It needs to be pretty air tight.

They can distinguish it, it is explained in the game. One or two words don't trigger, either Skull Face says it during a cutscene or on one of the tapes.

Also Code-Talker explains how the parasite don't react to portuguese if they are a spanish breed and those to language are kinda similar, just like german and english.

[crua9]

I did listen to the tapes, and they don't really answer my question. They say they understand it, but they don't get into how and why.

To be honest there is a lot in this game that is iffy. Quiet not talking (I have an entire thread on why this is stupid), kids being at and staying at a merc base, there being no safe house so random people and the kids don't know where the base is, everything that moves out side of your base and animals want to kill you, and so on.


Anyways just saying they don't attack another lang or whatever doesn't answer the question. Even more so when people have accents In fact, it seems like it wouldn't work at all because of the accent issue

Below is the thread on why quirt not talking is stupid.
http://steamcommunity.com/app/287700/discussions/0/523897653312044924/

[Outlaw1109]

Originally posted by crua9:

I did listen to the tapes, and they don't really answer my question. They say they understand it, but they don't get into how and why.

To be honest there is a lot in this game that is iffy. Quiet not talking (I have an entire thread on why this is stupid), kids being at and staying at a merc base, there being no safe house so random people and the kids don't know where the base is, everything that moves out side of your base and animals want to kill you, and so on.

I'll give you another: Where are all the Civilians? I've been to Kabul, Afghanistan, and...I'll tell you now, there's no way it's that desolate. The only time I ever saw people clear the streets like that was when there was when some ♥♥♥♥ was about to go down...

[crua9]

Originally posted by PFC.Mike:

Originally posted by crua9:

I did listen to the tapes, and they don't really answer my question. They say they understand it, but they don't get into how and why.

To be honest there is a lot in this game that is iffy. Quiet not talking (I have an entire thread on why this is stupid), kids being at and staying at a merc base, there being no safe house so random people and the kids don't know where the base is, everything that moves out side of your base and animals want to kill you, and so on.

I'll give you another: Where are all the Civilians? I've been to Kabul, Afghanistan, and...I'll tell you now, there's no way it's that desolate. The only time I ever saw people clear the streets like that was when there was when some ♥♥♥♥ was about to go down...

I think that's why the devs wanted to make this an open world, but failed. They basically made it a 90s version of an open world game. Where as today, what you do in open world games changes the area, and there is a lot more life

[Songbird]

Originally posted by PFC.Mike:

Originally posted by crua9:

I did listen to the tapes, and they don't really answer my question. They say they understand it, but they don't get into how and why.

To be honest there is a lot in this game that is iffy. Quiet not talking (I have an entire thread on why this is stupid), kids being at and staying at a merc base, there being no safe house so random people and the kids don't know where the base is, everything that moves out side of your base and animals want to kill you, and so on.

I'll give you another: Where are all the Civilians? I've been to Kabul, Afghanistan, and...I'll tell you now, there's no way it's that desolate. The only time I ever saw people clear the streets like that was when there was when some ♥♥♥♥ was about to go down...

You were in Kabul during the soviet invasion? ^^

The areas are literally inhabited by soviet soldiers. The civilians fled.

[Gritsunorak]

You know what would truly be "the missing link", the full circle?

Parasites being developed into nano machines

[Machripe]

Vocal cord vibrations, certain patterns cause the parasites to get in the mood for some love making.

[Sticky White Stuff]

They don't target the specific words, but the whole language and dialect. If you spoke a few random words withing a certain interval, nothing would happen. That much is explained in the game. I swear, people are TRYING to find plot holes to blame the game. While this can be considered a legit question with no bad intent, the game explained how they work multiple times. The question you asked is answered right in the game.

[Outlaw1109]

Originally posted by Songbird:

Originally posted by PFC.Mike:

I'll give you another: Where are all the Civilians? I've been to Kabul, Afghanistan, and...I'll tell you now, there's no way it's that desolate. The only time I ever saw people clear the streets like that was when there was when some ♥♥♥♥ was about to go down...

You were in Kabul during the soviet invasion? ^^

The areas are literally inhabited by soviet soldiers. The civilians fled.

No, in more recent times, as you no doubt have guessed, however, to assume that every man woman and child fled their country is ludacris. While many civilians did, in fact, become refugees, not everyone just abandoned their homes.

Similar to the American occupation of Afghanistan...

Those are some stubborn people.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/asia-july-dec06-soviet_10-10/

A brief description. (PBS article about the soviet invasion...)

And I take it Zaire was also abandoned by it's people... and/or... indigenous animals...

[Suzaku]

Originally posted by crua9:

I did listen to the tapes, and they don't really answer my question. They say they understand it, but they don't get into how and why.

The parasites don't "understand" anything. I don't think you actually listend to the tapes, or you weren't paying attention to them, because they absolutely do explain it.

The parasites also don't "attack" the host. If you had listened to the tapes, you would know that for sure. Sustained exposure to sounds specific to individual languages (intonations, rhythms, and pronunciations) is what triggers their instinct to breed. They copulate and lay their eggs in the host's lungs. The larvae then hatch and begin eating the lung tissue, eventually killing them. During that time, the host coughs, vomits, bleeds, etc., infecting others with parasite larvae.

Originally posted by Gritsunorak:

You know what would truly be "the missing link", the full circle?

Parasites being developed into nano machines

I'm pretty sure that's the conclusion we're meant to draw. The parasites served as the blueprint for the nanomachines developed and used by the Patriots.

[Outlaw1109]

Originally posted by Suzaku:

The parasites don't "understand" anything. I don't think you actually listend to the tapes, or you weren't paying attention to them, because they absolutely do explain it.

The parasites also don't "attack" the host. If you had listened to the tapes, you would know that for sure. Sustained exposure to sounds specific to individual languages (intonations, rhythms, and pronunciations) is what triggers their instinct to breed. They copulate and lay their eggs in the host's lungs. The larvae then hatch and begin eating the lung tissue, eventually killing them. During that time, the host coughs, vomits, bleeds, etc., infecting others with parasite larvae.

♥♥♥♥. I read that in Codetalker's voice...maddening...

[crua9]

Originally posted by PFC.Mike:

Originally posted by Songbird:

You were in Kabul during the soviet invasion? ^^

The areas are literally inhabited by soviet soldiers. The civilians fled.

No, in more recent times, as you no doubt have guessed, however, to assume that every man woman and child fled their country is ludacris. While many civilians did, in fact, become refugees, not everyone just abandoned their homes.

Similar to the American occupation of Afghanistan...

Those are some stubborn people.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/asia-july-dec06-soviet_10-10/

A brief description. (PBS article about the soviet invasion...)

And I take it Zaire was also abandoned by it's people... and/or... indigenous animals...

To back that up. While a lot of the people who are going to Europe from the mid east right now. There are a ton that's staying put. There is a lot of them that know they can't make the trip, and they don't know any better.



Anyways, lets add one more thing to the list. If they wanted to get rid of the giant robot and keep people from knowing about it. Why did they not only fly it over a bunch of land and sea, but try to fix it? Why didn't they just try to scrap it right there on the spot. Maybe blow it up?

Again, how did skull face hide something like that? He obviously had a ton of people working on it, guarding it, and so on. You're telling me not a few or at least 1 person talked about it with their family or someone. It's kinda like the Batman problem (how do you make a big cave with all the stuff for the cave, and keep up the stuff without word getting out)

[Qwertion]

Originally posted by crua9:

Originally posted by PFC.Mike:

No, in more recent times, as you no doubt have guessed, however, to assume that every man woman and child fled their country is ludacris. While many civilians did, in fact, become refugees, not everyone just abandoned their homes.

Similar to the American occupation of Afghanistan...

Those are some stubborn people.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/asia-july-dec06-soviet_10-10/

A brief description. (PBS article about the soviet invasion...)

And I take it Zaire was also abandoned by it's people... and/or... indigenous animals...

To back that up. While a lot of the people who are going to Europe from the mid east right now. There are a ton that's staying put. There is a lot of them that know they can't make the trip, and they don't know any better.



Anyways, lets add one more thing to the list. If they wanted to get rid of the giant robot and keep people from knowing about it. Why did they not only fly it over a bunch of land and sea, but try to fix it? Why didn't they just try to scrap it right there on the spot. Maybe blow it up?

Again, how did skull face hide something like that? He obviously had a ton of people working on it, guarding it, and so on. You're telling me not a few or at least 1 person talked about it with their family or someone. It's kinda like the Batman problem (how do you make a big cave with all the stuff for the cave, and keep up the stuff without word getting out)

Soviet soldiers could probably be carrying out a death sentences for sahelantropus and xof leaks. Red army is generally disciplined where it counts. And Skullface's man know better then to cross their insane Shakespearean boss.

Snake didn't order any repairs on metal gear, he just wanted to keep it as a trophy, prove of their sacrifice. Kids repaired it and stole it, probably sold it as well as further down the series sahelantropus is never mentioned.

Back to the other topic - it's kinda ok that there are no civies. It might be due to the fact that in Snake's AO there's simply none. But what does ruin authenticity a lot is that there aren't even any dushmans. In mission 9 Miller says they are fighting and you gotta take out soviet reinforcments, but come on, there are only soviets. No evidence of afghan presense at all. Just some rare prisoners. That's BS.