METAL GEAR SOLID V: THE PHANTOM PAIN

METAL GEAR SOLID V: THE PHANTOM PAIN

fulf Sep 19, 2015 @ 1:52am
Anyone else shoot Quiet?
Her entire character is based around exploitation and I'm glad I could kill her without having her be in the game for more than 1 mission :)

And yes, I've read up on her backstory and stuff. Still no interest in having her.

Woah, didn't mean to spur social commentary. The way she's dressed doesn't offend me or make me uncomfortable. Her characterization is ♥♥♥♥ing atrocious and is just an excuse to have an oversexualized female shoehorned to fill a pivotal (?) role in the game. But the story is such a mess anyways that having such a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ character featured prominently really doesn't matter I guess. Ooh. controversial.
Last edited by fulf; Sep 20, 2015 @ 12:42am
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Dinerenblanc Sep 19, 2015 @ 2:48am 
Originally posted by Master Zone:
Originally posted by Psych:

Naked for Snake = Shirtless. Naked for Quiet = In underpants and see through pantyhose. Don't even begin to draw comparisons cause there isn't one. You won't find a cutscene with Snake rolling around in the water in his underwear or one of his posing with his ass facing you in the ACC. It's stupid, and it undermines her integrity as a character. They even found an excuse to take her pants off in the last mission so she flip around in her underwear. It's ridiculous.

Mmmmm hmmm.... Cool story bro, tell us more.

I'm sure nothing bad happens to men and their sexual parts.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=410257423

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FTX7kXYx4Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oe2ZW4boNqE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgEOBCTeVtE

https://youtu.be/lYNMrR7MCNY?t=1m53s

http://download.gamezone.com/uploads/image/data/987323/johnny.jpg

So posting that somehow negates that fact that scenes like this is any less ridiculous how?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQXmw-bjW40
Isaac Sep 19, 2015 @ 2:51am 
Originally posted by Psych:
Originally posted by Master Zone:

Mmmmm hmmm.... Cool story bro, tell us more.

I'm sure nothing bad happens to men and their sexual parts.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=410257423

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FTX7kXYx4Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oe2ZW4boNqE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgEOBCTeVtE

https://youtu.be/lYNMrR7MCNY?t=1m53s

http://download.gamezone.com/uploads/image/data/987323/johnny.jpg

So posting that somehow negates that fact that scenes like this is any less ridiculous how?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQXmw-bjW40
dont think he was trying to negate it, just show that men are treated kinda the same throughout the series(not really in this game though)
Borg Cube Sep 19, 2015 @ 2:53am 
Edited version: Quiet dancing around in the water dramatically as snake gets back on the chopper not giving a ♥♥♥♥.
Makaroner Sep 19, 2015 @ 2:53am 
Haha yeah cause a guy taking a ♥♥♥♥ in a barrel is totally objectifying men.
Makaroner Sep 19, 2015 @ 2:54am 
Originally posted by Jugs Jones:
Edited version: Quiet dancing around in the water dramatically as snake gets back on the chopper not giving a ♥♥♥♥.

Course. Snake likes dudes, he always has.
CaptainLagbeard Sep 19, 2015 @ 2:54am 
Originally posted by Psych:
So posting that somehow negates that fact that scenes like this is any less ridiculous how?
Ya know, that kind of attitude is the problem here... You focus on one side so much that you ignore everything else...

"MGS V objetifies Quiet by having her almost naked therefore objectifies women!"

You get shown how the series has had guys pretty much completely naked...

"But MGS V has Quiet almost naked!"
Borg Cube Sep 19, 2015 @ 2:55am 
Mmm...dudes
Originally posted by Ixiooo:
Originally posted by Jugs Jones:
I think he means she appeals to the lonely gamers.
I'm a lonely gamer and i prefer DD. >_>
+1
Having DD is a lot better than plastic Quiet, DD wont nevah leave you
Last edited by The Clansman [The Unforgiven2]; Sep 19, 2015 @ 2:56am
Makaroner Sep 19, 2015 @ 2:57am 
Originally posted by CaptainLagbeard:
Originally posted by Psych:
So posting that somehow negates that fact that scenes like this is any less ridiculous how?
Ya know, that kind of attitude is the problem here... You focus on one side so much that you ignore everything else...

"MGS V objetifies Quiet by having her almost naked therefore objectifies women!"

You get shown how the series has had guys pretty much completely naked...

"But MGS V has Quiet almost naked!"

Dude, the problem isn't the nakedness. It's how they are portrayed.
Quiet is sexy fap bait.
Naked Raiden sneaking around is humorous.
Dinerenblanc Sep 19, 2015 @ 2:58am 
Originally posted by CaptainLagbeard:
Originally posted by Psych:
So posting that somehow negates that fact that scenes like this is any less ridiculous how?
Ya know, that kind of attitude is the problem here... You focus on one side so much that you ignore everything else...

"MGS V objetifies Quiet by having her almost naked therefore objectifies women!"

You get shown how the series has had guys pretty much completely naked...

"But MGS V has Quiet almost naked!"

lol So because they have a guy doing a poop joke and Miller on the beach in a speedo, they're not objectifying women with Quiet despite the fact that she's frolicking in the rain in nothing but her undies and shoving her ass in the players face in the ACC? Context, buddy. Use it. What about all those features that allowed the player to take photos of female characters in their bikinis?

This?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cl0t41ISbvY

This?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G0BvOk2x_U

Or this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1rMrkBMPYY
Last edited by Dinerenblanc; Sep 19, 2015 @ 3:08am
Shadow_Hazard Sep 19, 2015 @ 2:58am 
The difference between men and women being sexualized in MGS is that while the women are indeed being highly sexualized for the titillation of straight male gamers, the 'sexualized' men are in fact being portrayed merely as cheap comedy.
Last edited by Shadow_Hazard; Sep 19, 2015 @ 3:06am
DamZe Sep 19, 2015 @ 3:08am 
Quet's character is your standard sexualized female nerd magnet, while I do like her abilities in the field, her appereance (her clothes) are a sad addition and do i no way further any respect for the character, she basically looks like a street hooker with a sniper rifle, and the explanation of her breathing/feeding through her skin is a total cop-out by Mr. Kojima.

Joosten's portrayal of Quiet is refreshing though, she has more human traits due to the face capture/motion capture of a real model/actress and this saves her partially, but the way she is exploited is in no way a sign of respect towards the female demography.

I know Japan has a pornographic subculture (Hentai/Rape galore!) while still retaining a respectful and honorable cultural traits, but a female can be just as beautiful and attractive and not flash her ass in fishnet stockings and a bikini infront of the player each minute in the chopper. If she was given more screentime and a more robust story/character development I would have missed her more after mission 45...
Last edited by DamZe; Sep 19, 2015 @ 3:13am
CaptainLagbeard Sep 19, 2015 @ 3:13am 
Originally posted by Ixiooo:
Originally posted by CaptainLagbeard:
Ya know, that kind of attitude is the problem here... You focus on one side so much that you ignore everything else...

"MGS V objetifies Quiet by having her almost naked therefore objectifies women!"

You get shown how the series has had guys pretty much completely naked...

"But MGS V has Quiet almost naked!"

Dude, the problem isn't the nakedness. It's how they are portrayed.
Quiet is sexy fap bait.
Naked Raiden sneaking around is humorous.
Well, if you want a guy portrayed in a similar manner as Quiet is... There is always Vamp... Going pretty much all of MGS 2 without a shirt, posing in a questionable manner whenever he could... But you'll probably ignore him as he's a guy.
Dinerenblanc Sep 19, 2015 @ 3:17am 
Originally posted by CaptainLagbeard:
Originally posted by Ixiooo:

Dude, the problem isn't the nakedness. It's how they are portrayed.
Quiet is sexy fap bait.
Naked Raiden sneaking around is humorous.
Well, if you want a guy portrayed in a similar manner as Quiet is... There is always Vamp... Going pretty much all of MGS 2 without a shirt, posing in a questionable manner whenever he could... But you'll probably ignore him as he's a guy.

Well he did have pants on for starters, and he didnt flip around in a pool of water or sitck his butt in the players face while wearing only his undies. And posing in a questionable manner? Really? You're really reaching there. It's funny how hard you're trying to sexualize male characters when they're not. And please tell me the game where Vamp was in a feature like this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1rMrkBMPYY
Last edited by Dinerenblanc; Sep 19, 2015 @ 3:18am
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