just unlocked Paz's ending (spoilers)

[Arashenstein]

honestly i am confused as hell... it just doesnt make any sense. at some point it starts to make some sense but after you lsiten to the final tape after you unlock her ending again it confuses you!

in peace walker she faught snake ok she was an undercover enemy. in ground zeroes she is tortured and captured and chico wants to rescue her but gets caught so snake goes to help ok this stil makes sense. then the chopper crash part and paz blowing up scene comes out but in MGS V PP when you step into her room for the first time it just doenst make any sense for her to be alive (however this is explained in the paz's ending a bit) but here is my question she was the bad guy and she was never angel of peace according to peace walker so what the hell is going on in paz's ending conversations in that cassette tape??? this snake is a decoy not the real one so what the hell paz is talking about?

how to unlock her ending: rescue all wandering motherbase soldiers (ther are 10) each time you do it you have to come back to her room and give her a photo after you give her the 9th photo the last photo appears on the wall outsite of her room next to the exit door. when you pick it up an achievement should unlock on steam for you then go back to her room and watch the ending cutscene then you unlock a tape and listen to it and tell me if it makes any sense?

[Zorpen]

You realise that she was a halucination? In the last "tape" she tells you that she is dead for 9 years (she died in GZ), and it is time to move on.

[князь Лев Николае]

You've been shyamalaned!

[Arashenstein]

Originally posted by Zorpen:

You realise that she was a halucination? In the last "tape" she tells you that she is dead for 9 years (she died in GZ), and it is time to move on.

exactly but why ocelot is explaining her existance? that is what is confusing me i realised she is a halucination but all those cutscenes with ocelot explaining her situation to snake makes no sense and also he halucination should occur for the real big boss not the fake big boss which had nothing to do with her.

[FlyBoogy]

I think everytime the strange bars come up on the screen in cutscenes it means its just a halucination.

[Arashenstein]

Originally posted by FlyBoogy:

I think everytime the strange bars come up on the screen in cutscenes it means its just a halucination.

to me it was like MGS 3 boss (the real boss who trained snake) comes and talks to venom snake in his imaginations... it just doesnt make sense when he is a fake

[NMA]

Who thinks this is real? You realise that she had to be 9 years older if she would have survived...but she still look like in 1974 (before the time in Cuba).

[князь Лев Николае]

Everything that happens inside that room does not... ummm... physically happen at all. In fact, the room is not even there, you wake up in the place where the room should be, shall it have physical presence.

[Arashenstein]

guys i understand she was dead 9 years ago i just do not understand why this comes to the fake boss imaginations? it should go for the real big boss not venom snake

[Zorpen]

Originally posted by Arashenstein:

exactly but why ocelot is explaining her existance? that is what is confusing me i realised she is a halucination but all those cutscenes with ocelot explaining her situation to snake makes no sense and also he halucination should occur for the real big boss not the fake big boss which had nothing to do with her.

Originally posted by Arashenstein:

guys i understand she was dead 9 years ago i just do not understand why this comes to the fake boss imaginations? it should go for the real big boss not venom snake

That entire cutscene was a hallucination. Ocelot and Kaz never spoke to you about Paz. You are hallucinating, because you are the medic that didn't find second bomb and you are feeling guilty.

[NMA]

Originally posted by Arashenstein:

guys i understand she was dead 9 years ago i just do not understand why this comes to the fake boss imaginations? it should go for the real big boss not venom snake

Yeah, thats seem like a flaw. But Venom was on first motherbase too. They just talk about stuff that happened there, he could have seen all that too.

[Arashenstein]

Originally posted by Zorpen:

Originally posted by Arashenstein:

exactly but why ocelot is explaining her existance? that is what is confusing me i realised she is a halucination but all those cutscenes with ocelot explaining her situation to snake makes no sense and also he halucination should occur for the real big boss not the fake big boss which had nothing to do with her.

That entire cutscene was a hallucination. Ocelot and Kaz never spoke to you about Paz. You are hallucinating, because you are the medic that didn't found second bomb and you are feeling guilty.

this is even more stupid mate, so you are the medic who feels guilty but paz is talking to you as "real big boss" by refering to peace walker moments where this medic never existed?

[Zorpen]

Originally posted by Arashenstein:

Originally posted by Zorpen:

That entire cutscene was a hallucination. Ocelot and Kaz never spoke to you about Paz. You are hallucinating, because you are the medic that didn't found second bomb and you are feeling guilty.

this is even more stupid mate, so you are the medic who feels guilty but paz is talking to you as "real big boss" by refering to peace walker moments where this medic never existed?

It's mixed in your mind. At that moment you (medic) thinks that you are real BB, so BB memories, and your memories are being mixed together.

[ZX119A]

Originally posted by Arashenstein:

Originally posted by Zorpen:

That entire cutscene was a hallucination. Ocelot and Kaz never spoke to you about Paz. You are hallucinating, because you are the medic that didn't found second bomb and you are feeling guilty.

this is even more stupid mate, so you are the medic who feels guilty but paz is talking to you as "real big boss" by refering to peace walker moments where this medic never existed?

You're forgetting that the medic was brainwashed into having all of Snake's memories, training, etc. He's reacting the way Big Boss would, or subconsciously thinks he should, not to mention the ridiculous brain trauma he's perpetually suffering from.

[Arashenstein]

Originally posted by TSYR119-A:

Originally posted by Arashenstein:

this is even more stupid mate, so you are the medic who feels guilty but paz is talking to you as "real big boss" by refering to peace walker moments where this medic never existed?

You're forgetting that the medic was brainwashed into having all of Snake's memories, training, etc. He's reacting the way Big Boss would, or subconsciously thinks he should.

i also remember him punching the mirror after he recovers the truth and as i unlocked this cutscene after finishing the game it just doesnt make sense for me...

[ZX119A]

Originally posted by Arashenstein:

Originally posted by TSYR119-A:

You're forgetting that the medic was brainwashed into having all of Snake's memories, training, etc. He's reacting the way Big Boss would, or subconsciously thinks he should.

i also remember him punching the mirror after he recovers the truth and as i unlocked this cutscene after finishing the game it just doesnt make sense for me...

He punches the mirror...and...? He's embraced the Big Boss persona completely and utterly. He is Big Boss.