Gas mask. Do we dev our own?

[Battleseed]

Don't see one listed. Do we eventualy develop one of our own?

[v00b]

Originally posted by RangerChad:

There once was a time I was laying a sleep mine next to a soldier I had neutralized, it blew up in my face and since the enemy was coming I could not get up in time to not be seen, gas mask would had been nice or mines not being triggered by enemies that are not moving.

I was trying to boobytrap a vehicle with a sleep mine and it kept going off, the stupid vehicle was setting off the mine for some dumb reason, gas mask would of been nice for this i got caught aswell -.-
This game needs better improvised traps :(

[RangerChad]

Indeed.

[Thunder Rahja]

There is no gas mask for you to wear. FOB guards get gas masks if they're using non-lethal weapons and have sleep mines in place.

[Erebus]

Originally posted by v00b:

I was trying to boobytrap a vehicle with a sleep mine and it kept going off, the stupid vehicle was setting off the mine for some dumb reason, gas mask would of been nice for this i got caught aswell -.-
This game needs better improvised traps :(

Hell just setting sleep mines with nothing else around I have like a 25% of tripping the mine immediately before I can get away from it.

[Daniel Cheese]

Yeah, no need for gasmasks *Loads another sleeping gas grenade in launcher and dominates anyone who comes to my FOB*

[PyroPaul]

unfortunatly there are no gas masks that you the player can wear... ironically, your guards, foes, and even a small telepathic kid have gasmas

Originally posted by Şƙƴℯȶℴ℘:

Originally posted by SageX85:

Warning of spoiler

No, there is no need for a gas mask ever in the game

Some FOBs have Non Lethal Defense which means sleep mines are everywhere. Gas masks would be overpowered. So they cant be used by the player. No they cannot be made and used by the player

Battle Dress uniform makes you Immune to Tranq darts.
NVG makes you immune to Smoke.
PB Shield makes you immune to damage.
Noctocyantin pin-points biological signals.

And honestly - considering how powerful Sleeping Gas is in this game when coupled with the fact that it has No counter at all... i don't think a gas-mask would be over powered at all...

[Wilkespre]

Who's to say you can't just block the Gasmask from being used in FOBs?

Besides if it does make it in there, cheaters will have something to save them from sleep grenades and sleep grenade launchers. Making it a whole lot difficult.

So in the end, we are in a tough spot.

[Gramstaal]

Originally posted by C o o l w h i p:

Who's to say you can't just block the Gasmask from being used in FOBs?

Besides if it does make it in there, cheaters will have something to save them from sleep grenades and sleep grenade launchers. Making it a whole lot difficult.

So in the end, we are in a tough spot.

That is the worst kind of argument. You don't balance everything around hackers, you balance it around the actual players.

Pretty much everything else has a counter in the game, just not sleeping gas (and smoke in the case of choking). Stun grenades don't have a "proper" counter, but hiding in a cardboard box makes them immune or near-immune aswell.

One way of implementing and balancing gas masks would be to give the player an item like the NVG, which can be equipped at any time but can't be used in combination with NVGs/Cardboard boxes and runs on filters, those filters would be used up passively but also increase in usage by running/inhaling smoke and being used up rapidly by sleep gas. And since it runs on filters, they wouldn't have an infinite amount. And for the love of god, give D-Dog a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ gas mask.

[Wilkespre]

Originally posted by Gran:

Originally posted by C o o l w h i p:

Who's to say you can't just block the Gasmask from being used in FOBs?

Besides if it does make it in there, cheaters will have something to save them from sleep grenades and sleep grenade launchers. Making it a whole lot difficult.

So in the end, we are in a tough spot.

That is the worst kind of argument. You don't balance everything around hackers, you balance it around the actual players.

Pretty much everything else has a counter in the game, just not sleeping gas (and smoke in the case of choking). Stun grenades don't have a "proper" counter, but hiding in a cardboard box makes them immune or near-immune aswell.

One way of implementing and balancing gas masks would be to give the player an item like the NVG, which can be equipped at any time but can't be used in combination with NVGs/Cardboard boxes and runs on filters, those filters would be used up passively but also increase in usage by running/inhaling smoke and being used up rapidly by sleep gas. And since it runs on filters, they wouldn't have an infinite amount. And for the love of god, give D-Dog a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ gas mask.

Until theres a way to stop hackers (AKA Ban them not allow them in games) other than that ♥♥♥♥ then no, its not a bad argument.

Besides this is a con we will get if we add gasmask/allow them in FOBs.

[Lambs2Lions]

Gas mask would be too broken in FOB, it would invalidate most of the non-lethal traps and grenades.

We don't have helmets for a reason, we don't have security guns for a reason. Either they ran out of time or they didn't thin they would be balanced. I like the current state of FOB missions.

[Wilkespre]

Originally posted by G4mBi7:

Gas mask would be too broken in FOB, it would invalidate most of the non-lethal traps and grenades.

Not really, if am correct I am sure setting off the Non-lethal traps will cause smoke to fill in the area from the trap meaning the enemy will come and check it out.

Grenades Aren't used that much, but its not to say the least that it can impair your vision. And Since combat status causes enemys to know where you are no matter where the sound came from...

[Lambs2Lions]

Originally posted by C o o l w h i p:

Originally posted by G4mBi7:

Gas mask would be too broken in FOB, it would invalidate most of the non-lethal traps and grenades.

Not really, if am correct I am sure setting off the Non-lethal traps will cause smoke to fill in the area from the trap meaning the enemy will come and check it out.

Grenades Aren't used that much, but its not to say the least that it can impair your vision. And Since combat status causes enemys to know where you are no matter where the sound came from...

Battle Dress + Gas Mas basically makes you fully counter a non-lethal defense force. The only thing that can stop you is a headshot.

[Okami]

Just put a damn gaz mask with 0 effect ... purely cosmetic. or disable it in FOB. I want a gaz mask T_T

[Wilkespre]

Originally posted by G4mBi7:

Originally posted by C o o l w h i p:

Not really, if am correct I am sure setting off the Non-lethal traps will cause smoke to fill in the area from the trap meaning the enemy will come and check it out.

Grenades Aren't used that much, but its not to say the least that it can impair your vision. And Since combat status causes enemys to know where you are no matter where the sound came from...

Battle Dress + Gas Mas basically makes you fully counter a non-lethal defense force. The only thing that can stop you is a headshot.

They don't wear gasmasks in Battle Dress outfits though.

[PyroPaul]

Originally posted by G4mBi7:

Originally posted by C o o l w h i p:

Not really, if am correct I am sure setting off the Non-lethal traps will cause smoke to fill in the area from the trap meaning the enemy will come and check it out.

Grenades Aren't used that much, but its not to say the least that it can impair your vision. And Since combat status causes enemys to know where you are no matter where the sound came from...

Battle Dress + Gas Mas basically makes you fully counter a non-lethal defense force. The only thing that can stop you is a headshot.

And who says that Battle Dress should even get Gas Mask?

quiet literally the model for a re-breather is already in the game which could be used by the player (and is even seen on snake during the quarantine mission, and on NPCs during FOB when fighting NL platforms) for the NPCs, this headgear is only combined with the Sneaking suit...


And why would it be a full counter?

Even Gasmask soldiers in the field are not perfectly immune to sleep gas - it just takes them twice as long to be effected by it... which can possibly be enough to run out of the gas cloud. The only thing it completely removes is the effect of 'smoke' and 'dust' on the NPC...

from the players perspective - the gas-mask could remove the 'flinching' that occurs when you enter smoke or high winds.