WALL OF SHAME

[Pillagius]

Well, you can't really fight them, since it's seems fairly easy to "mod" PF stats and Konami does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to prevent that so far... We might as well just show those sad persons that could care less about the game to the world.

Sooo, here they come! PF ranking matches "Wall of shame" for this week:
#1
this guy isn't even trying...
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=558930888
his profile
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=558931532
#2
A little better, but still kinda obvious
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=558931751
and his profile
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=558932063

Keep 'em coming!

[Comrade Brendonian]

I can't really say leave them be, but a lot of them do seek attention, as they know they're purposly pissing [upsetting]* other people off from experience. Naming and shaming is giving a lot of them exactly what they want. The only thing you can really do is report, move on and forget about them and hope they get banned sooner or later (but i wouldn't hold my breath for Konami)
It's like a child, it kicks and screams cause it wants attention, if you don't give it just that, it gives up and moves on to something else to occupy itself and find another way to get attention somewhere else.

Once again though, this is just my understanding of things. I'm not saying everyone has to do it, and I'm not saying it's the right or wrong choice, it's just personally my preference to things.

[gom]

I understood what were you saying Heyi.I didn't say anything about harassing or abusing anyone.I am not going to start adding random people on steam.But when i post a screenshot there is also my account name in it so i am responsible for it.So i don't think there is anything wrong with posting screenshots with cheaters/hackers

[Deathraven13]

Publicado originalmente por chiuacoiaoiosauaua:

I understood what were you saying Heyi.I didn't say anything about harassing or abusing anyone.I am not going to start adding random people on steam.But when i post a screenshot there is also my account name in it so i am responsible for it.So i don't think there is anything wrong with posting screenshots with cheaters/hackers

If it's not against the rules it's cool. Since it's not then you still follow the law.

[gom]

Publicado originalmente por Deathraven13:

Publicado originalmente por chiuacoiaoiosauaua:

I understood what were you saying Heyi.I didn't say anything about harassing or abusing anyone.I am not going to start adding random people on steam.But when i post a screenshot there is also my account name in it so i am responsible for it.So i don't think there is anything wrong with posting screenshots with cheaters/hackers

If it's not against the rules it's cool. Since it's not then you still follow the law.

Well if u are harassing someone or spamming him it is annoying but since its just a screenshot from ingame with my name in it i think its ok too.

[Deathraven13]

Publicado originalmente por chiuacoiaoiosauaua:

Publicado originalmente por Deathraven13:

If it's not against the rules it's cool. Since it's not then you still follow the law.

Well if u are harassing someone or spamming him it is annoying but since its just a screenshot from ingame with my name in it i think its ok too.

Yes it's ok, it's not like if you talked about it for hours.

[DanrSan]

Publicado originalmente por Anoteros:

Publicado originalmente por chiuacoiaoiosauaua:

You actually lose a legit way to get S+ rank soldiers with PF points but that's not the point.The point is that there are players who cheat.I have reported a lot of them to Konami even though i won't get any results.But at least we should report them.

just farm some heroism points and hit up some easy to farm missions to get your s, s+ and s++ ;)

U can't i repeat U CAN'T farm s+ and s++ in freeroam/missions also heroism doesn't help farming on soldiers ... we all already know that...

Another thing cheating in PF or wtv is cheating, we know PF league sucks but still cheating and konami should BAN EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT USES CHEATS period (if i could i would ban permanently every STEAM account that uses a single cheat in multiplayer no matter the case!)

[GrayHound]

Publicado originalmente por LegacyTuga:

Publicado originalmente por Anoteros:

just farm some heroism points and hit up some easy to farm missions to get your s, s+ and s++ ;)

U can't i repeat U CAN'T farm s+ and s++ in freeroam/missions also heroism doesn't help farming on soldiers ... we all already know that...

Another thing cheating in PF or wtv is cheating, we know PF league sucks but still cheating and konami should BAN EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT USES CHEATS period (if i could i would ban permanently every STEAM account that uses a single cheat in multiplayer no matter the case!)

+1

[Pillagius]

Publicado originalmente por LegacyTuga:

Publicado originalmente por Anoteros:

just farm some heroism points and hit up some easy to farm missions to get your s, s+ and s++ ;)

U can't i repeat U CAN'T farm s+ and s++ in freeroam/missions also heroism doesn't help farming on soldiers ... we all already know that...

Another thing cheating in PF or wtv is cheating, we know PF league sucks but still cheating and konami should BAN EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT USES CHEATS period (if i could i would ban permanently every STEAM account that uses a single cheat in multiplayer no matter the case!)

Nah. Why ban them for good? That's no fun. Do as boyz in Titan Fall or FromSoftware did - match them only with other "cheaters" :P

[Comrade Brendonian]

Publicado originalmente por chiuacoiaoiosauaua:

-Snip-

Okay I see what you're getting at, I was just saying as an example on why it's not a good thing to do. But I understand where you're coming from too, so no worries. :P

[gom]

Publicado originalmente por MPGHHeyi:

Publicado originalmente por chiuacoiaoiosauaua:

-Snip-

Okay I see what you're getting at, I was just saying as an example on why it's not a good thing to do. But I understand where you're coming from too, so no worries. :P

No worries man i know how irritating is to constantly flame/harass/spam someone even when you are right.Take for instance."Oh it's a sniper!Oh wait it's the enemy gunship!".Most irritating thing in game.

[Hammer Of Evil]

BAN THEM ALL I SAY. BAN THEM ALL.

This game is so completely stupid now, and has sullied the MGS name. why have an online component without the ability to prevent cheating? that's just asking for every peice of ♥♥♥♥ in the known world to generate cheats for it.

the entire leaderboard is suspect now - and this forum has degraded into a retarded cheater witch hunt slash hackusation flamewar, and a bunch of people scrambling to understand what cheats are and trying to either produce countermeasures or get them so they can use them too.

nonsense.

this is complete nonsense.

nonsense doesn't belong in my world.

The only way this goes away is mass bans for all the dirty, filth ridden, psychologically deluded cheaters. Especially the ones dumb enough to admit it, like in this thread. Any justifications provided merely serve to support the use of cheating online. You still used them, you're part of the problem.

I move to ban them all.

[Pillagius]

Publicado originalmente por FoxHoundSigma:

BAN THEM ALL I SAY. BAN THEM ALL.

This game is so completely stupid now, and has sullied the MGS name. why have an online component without the ability to prevent cheating? that's just asking for every peice of ♥♥♥♥ in the known world to generate cheats for it.

the entire leaderboard is suspect now - and this forum has degraded into a retarded cheater witch hunt slash hackusation flamewar, and a bunch of people scrambling to understand what cheats are and trying to either produce countermeasures or get them so they can use them too.

nonsense.

this is complete nonsense.

nonsense doesn't belong in my world.

The only way this goes away is mass bans for all the dirty, filth ridden, psychologically deluded cheaters. Especially the ones dumb enough to admit it, like in this thread. Any justifications provided merely serve to support the use of cheating online. You still used them, you're part of the problem.

I move to ban them all.

Meh. Just as i've said before - this is no fun to just ban 'em all. Matching them with other "cheaters" so that they can play the game, but forced to play only with those like them and all gameplay for them turns into "cheat race" with flaming/raging etc.

Sophisticated sadism - that's the answer.

[Comrade Brendonian]

Publicado originalmente por Pillagius:

Publicado originalmente por FoxHoundSigma:

BAN THEM ALL I SAY. BAN THEM ALL.

This game is so completely stupid now, and has sullied the MGS name. why have an online component without the ability to prevent cheating? that's just asking for every peice of ♥♥♥♥ in the known world to generate cheats for it.

the entire leaderboard is suspect now - and this forum has degraded into a retarded cheater witch hunt slash hackusation flamewar, and a bunch of people scrambling to understand what cheats are and trying to either produce countermeasures or get them so they can use them too.

nonsense.

this is complete nonsense.

nonsense doesn't belong in my world.

The only way this goes away is mass bans for all the dirty, filth ridden, psychologically deluded cheaters. Especially the ones dumb enough to admit it, like in this thread. Any justifications provided merely serve to support the use of cheating online. You still used them, you're part of the problem.

I move to ban them all.

Meh. Just as i've said before - this is no fun to just ban 'em all. Matching them with other "cheaters" so that they can play the game, but forced to play only with those like them and all gameplay for them turns into "cheat race" with flaming/raging etc.

Sophisticated sadism - that's the answer.

It'll just turn into "Oh but I wasn't cheating!"
Then it'll be Guy A was cheating, Guy B was cheating, neither of them want to admit to it, the flame war on steam forums with children begins, but nothing will change. Neither will be banned.
What we need is a proper legit anti-cheat, and while we're at it, some forum mods/admins.

[Pillagius]

Publicado originalmente por MPGHHeyi:

Publicado originalmente por Pillagius:

Meh. Just as i've said before - this is no fun to just ban 'em all. Matching them with other "cheaters" so that they can play the game, but forced to play only with those like them and all gameplay for them turns into "cheat race" with flaming/raging etc.

Sophisticated sadism - that's the answer.

It'll just turn into "Oh but I wasn't cheating!"
Then it'll be Guy A was cheating, Guy B was cheating, neither of them want to admit to it, the flame war on steam forums with children begins, but nothing will change. Neither will be banned.
What we need is a proper legit anti-cheat, and while we're at it, some forum mods/admins.

Reasonable. Still, it's not like when you got "banned" in the game there has to be big fat red pop up window "YOU ARE BANNED". Just quietly throw them into stinky cheater pool with crapy servers and all and let them be - I doubt that people who dumm enough to cheat in PF matches the way they do would even notice.

[Comrade Brendonian]

Publicado originalmente por Pillagius:

Publicado originalmente por MPGHHeyi:

It'll just turn into "Oh but I wasn't cheating!"
Then it'll be Guy A was cheating, Guy B was cheating, neither of them want to admit to it, the flame war on steam forums with children begins, but nothing will change. Neither will be banned.
What we need is a proper legit anti-cheat, and while we're at it, some forum mods/admins.

Reasonable. Still, it's not like when you got "banned" in the game there has to be big fat red pop up window "YOU ARE BANNED". Just quietly throw them into stinky cheater pool with crapy servers and all and let them be - I doubt that people who dumm enough to cheat in PF matches the way they do would even notice.

I agree, it would be a nice way to handle things. I thought I read somewhere a while back that cheaters were already getting purposly matched against other cheaters on FOB's.
I was thinking about this a few mins ago while in my kitchen, but what exactly can they ban cheaters from? There's no dedicated servers to ban cheaters from, it's all done client side and by hosts. And there's no VAC or valve systems in place to ban them from either. So is there anything at all they can actually ban them from? I don't think Konami has the power to stop certain individuals from using their own internet and accounts to play online, valve could do it if it was VAC secured, but once again, it's not.