METAL GEAR SOLID V: THE PHANTOM PAIN

METAL GEAR SOLID V: THE PHANTOM PAIN

No_Quarter Oct 16, 2015 @ 4:00am
FOB guards appearing out of nowhere
So, I tranq 2 platforms, tranq entire 3-rd and start fultoning containers and I hear a guard, can't see anything in that direction, so I come closer a bit and 5 guards show up at the very platform I am on. How big is render range, 20m? I used noctocyanin and I'm sure there's no one left on platform but guards start appearing even from lower flors, two from top flors without a sound of door opening. I am aware that noctocyanin has limited range so I did walk around and checked, even if I didnt instead having 20 guards at the main platform I've dealt with like 30, and there are more! and then surprise - I get that mark that someone is about to spot me, another "new guy" (I was there 5 seconds ago), I just press S a little so I can get a clear shot, do a quick tranq shot with underbarrel sleep genade launcher and turn around to quick fulton cotainers and get the hell out, but same guy spots me and sounds alert o.O
is it possible that he left my "render range" when I shot him cause I did move back instantly after shot? it was like 25 meters away, not more, I'm million percent sure it was a hit cause I saw a cloud where grenade was supposed to him
I even placed few zzz mines near the bridge if some wake up from previous platforms, but when I look there from middle of platfor there are none, I tried to approach and 5 guards were there (those 5 from begining of a story), like 5-7 meters closer that mines... don't get it
p.s. I don't have a laggy connection
Last edited by No_Quarter; Oct 16, 2015 @ 4:27am
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CmD|Frost™ Oct 16, 2015 @ 4:10am 
I got exactly that 2 days ago. I invaded a FOB with 2 platforms and i put all guards to sleep. After that i extracted some containers and i was sure there are no more guards. A few meters before i reached the core i got spotted from behind. It was truely impossible because i take the stairs and if there actually was a guard left he should have see me because i was sprinting and not crouching. Anyways these FOBs seems to be a bit buggy. I also got spotted through walls sometimes or through some objects and you dont even have the chance to shoot the guy because you just dont see him but he can see you magicaly.
No_Quarter Oct 16, 2015 @ 4:20am 
fun times, this was imposible, I killed a few guys chasing me while trying to get to safe spot, but hey, new surprise - there are no safe spots when they are just appearing, two guys rekt me up on "balcony" where no one was besides one tranqued guy -.- fun times
Last edited by No_Quarter; Oct 16, 2015 @ 4:22am
CmD|Frost™ Oct 16, 2015 @ 4:27am 
Lol they are just using wormhole devices also to spawn right into your face.
Sir Texas Sir Oct 16, 2015 @ 4:41am 
I been shot through ways during the mission take your base back and all so during fobs. I'm like really there is now one around or above me and I'm taking hits.
No_Quarter Oct 16, 2015 @ 4:44am 
are guards movement made server-wise, or client-wise?
Last edited by No_Quarter; Oct 16, 2015 @ 4:49am
PhoenixFury Oct 16, 2015 @ 4:51am 
Originally posted by n0_quarter_:
are guards movement made server-wise, or client-wise?

Client-wise. The invader is host if a defender shows up, P2P connection.

Guards still see/shoot through walls sometimes. Cover and sight lines in FoBs are rather poorly done in comparison with the base game in Afghanistan and Africa.

Protip: If a guard is peeking, he can still see around the corner when he's animating but his head is still behind the corner.
Last edited by PhoenixFury; Oct 16, 2015 @ 4:51am
No_Quarter Oct 16, 2015 @ 5:03am 
it's funny how guards fire thousand bullets into a wall, just because invader was50m behind in that direction
Snake Oct 16, 2015 @ 5:21am 
After "alarm" is guards lost to many ppl they call for reiforcments.
They mostly appear near main door. 3 or 4 guards.
CmD|Frost™ Oct 16, 2015 @ 5:31am 
Originally posted by Snake:
After "alarm" is guards lost to many ppl they call for reiforcments.
They mostly appear near main door. 3 or 4 guards.
But not if you go all stealth.
Snake Oct 16, 2015 @ 5:40am 
The topic is bout apearing guards from nowhere.
I describe why they can appear.
The way i play in FOBs I got this groups only few times when i got raged with guards and start killing them 1 after other. But mostly only few guards slleping till i reach core.
Some players can do it without putting to sleep even single one. (looking at they routs dont understand how they do it without get spoted or puting someone to sleep. Cuz when i cheked same route its i hell of a lot cams UAVs and guards there, so i dont get how without cheats its posible. maybe distracting guards by some way, but on last Combat platform not so much space to sneak couting that you must use ladders or pipes. )
No_Quarter Oct 16, 2015 @ 5:45am 
Originally posted by Snake:
After "alarm" is guards lost to many ppl they call for reiforcments.
They mostly appear near main door. 3 or 4 guards.

there was no alaram before, 10-15 guys showed up before the alert, but 2 of those newly appeared guys that rekt me were where that lonely 4 containers are on Base Devevlopment Platform, 1-st platform. Only alert that happened is that uav picked up a man in trouble, but at that point all guards were tranqualized
Snake Oct 16, 2015 @ 6:01am 
if UAVs spots fallen body= Alert status, so if noone to check this body system spawns 1 or 2 guards to do this work. But mostly if guards can come from previous platform they come from there.
No_Quarter Oct 16, 2015 @ 6:16am 
Originally posted by Snake:
if UAVs spots fallen body= Alert status, so if noone to check this body system spawns 1 or 2 guards to do this work. But mostly if guards can come from previous platform they come from there.

so the guys woke up from previous platforms and came (teleported)? I now how long tranq lasts, this doesn't go with it, and if any woke up they would call in. Guards were spawning because no one managed to check the guard?
Snake Oct 16, 2015 @ 6:43am 
Originally posted by n0_quarter_:
Guards were spawning because no one managed to check the guard?
Yep.
If UAV spoted body and noone left to check UAVs spot it could happen.
If you destroy all UAV all platform gonna sleep or lie they face down and dont even bother to get up if it wont be any alarms. Alert status all other reports (like cam destroyed ) didnt count.

Why i'm saying that cuz i got same case.. all platform sleep and i miss 1 UAV and after that 1 guard just appeared from nowhere. Aaand he go to sleep to and UAV was destroyed. After that destroying cameras didnt spawn any guards more.

In other run with 2 platforms guards that awake in other platfrom came to check 1st one cuz all 1st was sleeping.

It looks like system is trying to adobt to player just in game in FOBs it could lead for some unexpected surprises.
No_Quarter Oct 16, 2015 @ 6:53am 
Originally posted by Snake:
Originally posted by n0_quarter_:
Guards were spawning because no one managed to check the guard?
Yep.
If UAV spoted body and noone left to check UAVs spot it could happen.
If you destroy all UAV all platform gonna sleep or lie they face down and dont even bother to get up if it wont be any alarms. Alert status all other reports (like cam destroyed ) didnt count.

Why i'm saying that cuz i got same case.. all platform sleep and i miss 1 UAV and after that 1 guard just appeared from nowhere. Aaand he go to sleep to and UAV was destroyed. After that destroying cameras didnt spawn any guards more.

In other run with 2 platforms guards that awake in other platfrom came to check 1st one cuz all 1st was sleeping.

It looks like system is trying to adobt to player just in game in FOBs it could lead for some unexpected surprises.

thanx dude, so first thing ever - kill those flying spawns of satans and then proceed
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