[SPOILER] Vocal cord parasite

[PhantomPain]

Hello

Maybe I missed some tape, but could someone answer me a question?

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So, Quiet needs to speak English in order to save Big Boss, but wouldn't that make him infected?








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I just did all the missions and can't remember if this is answered in the story. Thank you.

[Sekkuar666]

Dr. Victor von Doom님이 먼저 게시:

It doesn't matter if he took it anyway. It was a completely different strain of the parasite.

I don't think that's right.
In one of the tapes, Kaz asks Code Talker if they couldn't simply "Ban the use of Kikongo" instead of using the wolbachia.

Code Talker replies "insuficient", among other things, "there is no way to know if you have only the Kikongo strain"

[MrFluffyWolf]

Hard Corg님이 먼저 게시:

MrFluffyWolf님이 먼저 게시:

Then how was Quiet supposed to be a biological weapon to assassinate Big Boss after being captured if it wasn't transferred by sound? If it isn't transferred by sound to some degree, then the whole chat between her and Code Talker after her torture is meaningless. "I'll never speak English.. ever... never"
Like.. okay? They way it's set up isn't to imply it hurts her, it's set up to imply it'd hurt Venom, that she's being Quiet out of loyalty.

Okay, I'll spell it out for you:

The vocal cord parasites, once they infect a host, congregate in the vocal cords of the host. They listen to specific speach patterns (languages) and once they hear "enough" of a specific language, they mature and become actively infectious via the same vectors as influenza, and have similar symptoms in the initial "infectious" period. (Influenza, also known as the flu, is bad ♥♥♥♥ that humanity has managed to severely neuter thanks to modern medicine; you should read up on virology/microbiology, it's pretty fascinating even in its high-level presentations.)

Quiet did not speak because she did not want the English-strain parasites in her vocal cords to mature, turning her into a walking bioweapon to over 80% of the world's population.

Sekkuar already explained it pretty well, but thanks.
They do, kinda transmit from the mouth though. They can't mature without speach, and it requires either, coughing, sneezing, breathing, or talking to transmit. I.E. Stanidng over someone with a radio and talking at them
It's the fact that they need time to even start trying to spread that I wasn't clear on, and what made the situation safe for him. Had she been talking in English for a while, that would have infected him.

[PhantomPain]

docvalentine님이 먼저 게시:

PhantomPain님이 먼저 게시:

But when did he get the Wolbachia in his body? I remember he had to smoke before talking to Code Talker in order to incapacitate the virus.

That's the very first meeting with Code Talker, before you take him back to Mother Base, who then goes on to vaccinate everyone with the Wolbachia...

Also you're missing the more relevant part of the post.
It only spreads by saliva and mucous from the lungs after it's been activated by speech and has moved onto the lungs. It wouldn't start spreading in a matter of minutes after she spoke, it needs time to copulate, gestate and then move into the lungs.

I get it now. Thank you all for the explanation.

[Wales Grey]

MrFluffyWolf님이 먼저 게시:

Sekkuar already explained it pretty well, but thanks.
They do, kinda transmit from the mouth though. They can't mature without speach, and it requires either, coughing, sneezing, breathing, or talking to transmit. I.E. Stanidng over someone with a radio and talking at them
It's the fact that they need time to even start trying to spread that I wasn't clear on, and what made the situation safe for him. Had she been talking in English for a while, that would have infected him.

Apparently he didn't explain it enough: The vocal cord parasite is a kind of microscopic organism, like an ameboa or Babesia or Trypanosoma brucei. They congregate in the vocal cords of an infected person and when the person speaks a certain language, the parasite colony matures, starts to multiply, and begins spreading throughout their system (which eventually causes death in most infectees). The parasites themselves are present in the various secretions and fluids of the human body: saliva, mucus, blood, etc. and are transmitted from host to host by those fluids entering a new host (i.e. an infected person sneezes and an uninfected person breaths in the aerosolized mucus/saliva/water) in a similar fashion as the flu is transmitted.

Quiet speaking English would not have infected Punished (Venom) Snake/Big Boss. It would have (maybe) activated the otherwise dormant English-targeting vocal cord parasites she was a carrier of. From that point on, she would have been a walking biological hazard.

[MrFluffyWolf]

Hard Corg님이 먼저 게시:

MrFluffyWolf님이 먼저 게시:

Sekkuar already explained it pretty well, but thanks.
They do, kinda transmit from the mouth though. They can't mature without speach, and it requires either, coughing, sneezing, breathing, or talking to transmit. I.E. Stanidng over someone with a radio and talking at them
It's the fact that they need time to even start trying to spread that I wasn't clear on, and what made the situation safe for him. Had she been talking in English for a while, that would have infected him.

Apparently he didn't explain it enough: The vocal cord parasite is a kind of microscopic organism, like an ameboa or Babesia or Trypanosoma brucei. They congregate in the vocal cords of an infected person and when the person speaks a certain language, the parasite colony matures, starts to multiply, and begins spreading throughout their system (which eventually causes death in most infectees). The parasites themselves are present in the various secretions and fluids of the human body: saliva, mucus, blood, etc. and are transmitted from host to host by those fluids entering a new host (i.e. an infected person sneezes and an uninfected person breaths in the aerosolized mucus/saliva/water) in a similar fashion as the flu is transmitted.

Quiet speaking English would not have infected Punished (Venom) Snake/Big Boss. It would have (maybe) activated the otherwise dormant English-targeting vocal cord parasites she was a carrier of. From that point on, she would have been a walking biological hazard.

Yeah, I completely understood that.
I fully read this post, and it contains nothing I didn't get from Sekkaur.

[Sekkuar666]

Hard Corg님이 먼저 게시:

Apparently he didn't explain it enough:
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I'm sorry, but you are pulling all that out of your ass.
There is nothing about anything of what you said in the game.

[TheHeartless193]

Sekkuar님이 먼저 게시:

Hard Corg님이 먼저 게시:

Apparently he didn't explain it enough:
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I'm sorry, but you are pulling all that out of your ass.
There is nothing about anything of what you said in the game.

He's right. It's on the wiki (take that with a grain of salt). She would've been a walking epidemic, minus the whole turning into a mindless zombie nonsense.

[docvalentine]

Sekkuar님이 먼저 게시:

Hard Corg님이 먼저 게시:

Apparently he didn't explain it enough:
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I'm sorry, but you are pulling all that out of your ass.
There is nothing about anything of what you said in the game.

Actually he's right. Code Talker specifically says it spreads like a cold or a flu and has similar symptoms at its earliest stages.

Not that I blame anyone for forgetting half of what Code Talker says. He's pretty long-winded.

[Sekkuar666]

Dr. Victor von Doom님이 먼저 게시:

She would've been a walking epidemic

That I know.

But, those things about being an amoeba, and being on all body fluids and what not, sorry, that's not anywhere in the game. I don't care if Kojima wrote a wiki page himself, it is not in the game.

[Wales Grey]

Sekkuar님이 먼저 게시:

I'm sorry, but you are pulling all that out of your ass.
There is nothing about anything of what you said in the game.

It's in the tapes.

Sekkuar님이 먼저 게시:

That I know.

But, those things about being an amoeba, and being on all body fluids and what not, sorry, that's not anywhere in the game. I don't care if Kojima wrote a wiki page himself, it is not in the game.

Okay, it being a specific sort of microorgnaism isn't explicitly mentioned anywhere in MGSV. I'll agree to that, but the specific description of the parasite and its pathology are dead ringers for being a single-celled microorganism like an ameoba.

[Sekkuar666]

Ok

[FlameWar]

Well, the problem is that Quiets action in herself make sense as peoepel explained earlier. The plothole comes into account if you think about the fact that on one of the tapes a droplet infection was mentioned, so Quiet coudl literally just wear a gas mask with blcoke dfilers or something 8since she rbeathes throug hher skin anyway, and drinks with it so no sewat or anything), and get the parasites removed. There is not a single logical reason given in the game why she had to leave, which is probbaly why a lot of peoeple find it so strange, or feel there's soemthing wrong with the whole thing.