METAL GEAR SOLID V: THE PHANTOM PAIN

METAL GEAR SOLID V: THE PHANTOM PAIN

What does "the man who sold the world" means?
I understand that Big Boss is this man, but how did he sell the world? Or what did he sell? Trying to get the full picture here. Thanks in advance!
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Messaggio originale di DemonicMoustache:
The man who sold his country
The man who betrayed his friend
The man who became a villian
The man who created a phantom
You forgot one more meaning to the phrase...

The Man who sold the world... is also the man who sold everyone the "Lie".

Meaning everyone truly believed that Vic was Big, and not even his "closest friend" Kaz who tell him apart from the real deal.

"We" are Big Boss afterall...
Messaggio originale di Revolver Ocelot RevolverOcelot:
Messaggio originale di Fly Minetti:
an asian guy who sold a unfinished game and lied to his fans :hintlord:
I blame Konami for that :VSnake:
Me too :Miller:
Messaggio originale di Revolver Ocelot RevolverOcelot:
I understand that Big Boss is this man, but how did he sell the world? Or what did he sell

His "selling the world", specifically, refers to how Big Boss perpetuates war for the sake of mercenary soldiers, and his own power and influence.

In MG2, Big Boss told Solid Snake that his plan was to eternally perpetuate war, to generate a need for soldiers, so that soldiers would always be in demand, and have a purpose. After the events of MGS3, Big Boss didn't want soldiers to be used and discarded by their nations when convenient.

All of the military groups he founded after that, including MSF, Diamond Dogs, and Outer Heaven, beyond being a counter-force to the Patriots, mainly served as a way for soldiers to fight in wars and conflicts of their choice, for a paycheck, but not be forced to follow the orders of any nation. Notice, this is what you're doing when you send soldiers on Outer Ops / Combat Deployment. Much of your staff is doing stuff all around the world while Big Boss is busy with the "main" missions that you play through.

The other lyrics of the song refer to Big Boss's "Phantom", how everyone thought Big Boss died after Ground Zeroes, and how Big Boss has participated in many battles over the years and seen so many of his comrades die.
Ultima modifica da FrostDust; 6 gen 2016, ore 14:31
Messaggio originale di Honzou:
Messaggio originale di DemonicMoustache:
The man who sold his country
The man who betrayed his friend
The man who became a villian
The man who created a phantom
You forgot one more meaning to the phrase...

The Man who sold the world... is also the man who sold everyone the "Lie".

Meaning everyone truly believed that Vic was Big, and not even his "closest friend" Kaz who tell him apart from the real deal.

"We" are Big Boss afterall...
We passed upon the stairs
Spoken was and when
Although I wasn't there
He said I was his friend
Which came as a surprise
I spoke into his eyes
I thought you died alone
A long long time ago
Oh no, not me
We never lost control
You're face to face
With the man who sold the world
I laughed and shook his hand
And made my way back home
I searched for farming land
Years and years I roamed
I gazed a gazer stare
We marked a million hills
I must have died alone
A long long time ago
Who knows?
Not me
I never lost control
You're face, to face
With the man who sold the world
Kojima explained Venom Snake's story in a song.
the original lyrics are a little different in places. he sings "we must have died alone"

the original song is quite ambiguous and people have wondered what Bowie meant by it for years. generally it is taken to be about a schizophrenic or a person having an identity crisis.
Messaggio originale di Adam_Vania:
the original lyrics are a little different in places. he sings "we must have died alone"

the original song is quite ambiguous and people have wondered what Bowie meant by it for years. generally it is taken to be about a schizophrenic or a person having an identity crisis.
To interpret the lyrics as it goes:
They both met in war
Spoke of warstories
Venon Snake wasn't with Big Boss but felt a connection
Venom Snake was Big Boss most trusted soldier
When Venom Snake found out he wasn't The Big Boss but just the title of Big Boss
Big Boss speaking to him through the tape and Venom Snake looking at the mirror seeing his reflection but not his reflection of his former self
Venom Snake who believed he was Big Boss believed "The Medic" died risking his life
Venom Snake became a Demon and Big Boss sold his men out and lost faith in The Boss.
It really isn't as complex as most people would make you believe.

Big Boss sold his world (His friends, his ideals, his past) in order to buy a chance at revenge and to shape the world he thought was right.
According to Wikipedia entry:

In the BBC Radio 1 special programme "ChangesNowBowie", broadcast on 8 January 1997, Bowie was interviewed by Mary Anne Hobbs and was asked about the song. Bowie commented: "I guess I wrote it because there was a part of myself that I was looking for. Maybe now that I feel more comfortable with the way that I live my life and my mental state (laughs) and my spiritual state whatever, maybe I feel there's some kind of unity now. That song for me always exemplified kind of how you feel when you're young, when you know that there's a piece of yourself that you haven't really put together yet.
Personally, I always thought it was meaning that Big Boss was The Man Who Sold The World a lie, the lie being that Venom was actually him
Messaggio originale di DxSpark:
Well, Big Boss has sold everyone and everything , even himself this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

The real boss is Venom , ♥♥♥♥ Big Boss the coward.

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Messaggio originale di leopz:
Messaggio originale di Fly Minetti:
an asian guy who sold a unfinished game and lied to his fans :hintlord:
I blame Konami for that :VSnake:
Konami the comany who sold the world
Messaggio originale di Mikannn:
Messaggio originale di leopz:
I blame Konami for that :VSnake:
Konami the comany who sold the world
Did they sell it to God ?
He sold the mammal pod to the patriots.
In MGSV context it can be taken as Big Boss "sold" his world to the Venom and making him a "real" Big Boss
Same as Venom "sold" his world (aka his real self and past) for a Big Boss's life
Although song by itself can be taken in different ways from something concret to something that requires you to have a certificate from mental hospital
Ultima modifica da o-o-o-Tekno-Musang-o-o-o; 20 mag 2020, ore 12:10
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