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Everyone who'd want BB dead, would come for Venom
MG takes place in Zanzibar land, so Venom probably went there to retrieve the kids. That's why Eli has this love/hate relationship with Big Boss because Venom (who he thought was BB) returned to find and help him grow an army. For Venom, this was redemption. Imagine coming to grips with everything that happens in Truth. You'd feel devastated and maybe even angry enough to become a demon. At a certain point, he probably reigns in those demons a bit and tries to apply what goodness is left toward helping those kids.
The real BB, though, sees Venom raising an army as a potential threat to his operations against the Patriots. How hard would it be for someone Patriot connected to go to Venom and say "look, man, BB did you wrong."? So BB contracts Solid to go and raid Zanzibar to kill Venom.
The BB we see in MG2 is obsessed with ending the Patriots and sees war as an endless cycle of violence. The BB we see in 4 is a man who regrets living a paranoid life full of warfare.
Diamond Dogs indeed try to locate the kids and Sahelanthropus but as Mission 51 indicates it's more about the Metal Gear than the kids. In the end he even leaves Eli stranded there with a single bullet to end his own life, before the island gets devastated with napalm.
During the time of Phantom Pain and up until 1995, Big Boss creates Outer Heaven in South Africa. He than again joins Foxhound and leaves Outer Heaven in the hands of Venom. This and the "Uprising" of Outer Heaven seemed to be planed by Big Boss who first sends his most trusted soldier (Grey Fox) to Outer Heaven who gets "captured". After that he sends his least experienced soldier (Solid Snake) to free Grey Fox and destroy Metal Gear.
Imho Big Boss'es plan never was for Solid Snake to succeed in this mission. Venom reveals himself, gets killed and Big Boss has to lay low.
He gathers the survivors including Grey Fox and starts helping Zanzibar Land to become an independent state.
Than MG2 happens and Solid Snakes is send to kill Big Boss again. This time the real one.
I understand the "what" but the "why" isn't there. I know the real BB is unquestionably motivated by the death of Boss. I feel like I get why Venom goes evil, this is a really traumatic fact to discover about oneself. What's missing is why the real BB sends Solid to kill Venom.
If your theory is right, he was hoping Venom would fulton Solid back to MB and recruit him? I'm not seeing the endgame here for Venom. In your theory he just gets screwed because real BB wants to test Solid's abilities.
Which may be the case, I don't know...
Big Boss didn't want to test Solid. BB wanted to kill Solid. Big Boss was never happy about his clones being made and he does not consider them his sons in any way. Big Boss sent Solid in order to appease his superiors in the govt. and to feed them false information until Solid got killed. Big Boss and Venom both underestimated Solid....and Solid went on to discover the truth, destroy Metal Gear and kill Venom.
This makes sense if we ignore that BB could have killed Solid at any point before he joined Foxhound. Is that just a Kojima-verse thing that we need to accept?
Kind of. But Big Boss didn't really need to kill Solid before that situation. He didn't HATE Solid necessarily, he respected him as a soldier and trained him. But when BB needed to do something to protect his interests, he sent Solid to Outer Heaven since he was the most inexperienced team member and therefore the one most likely to fail.
I don't think that he wanted to kill Solid Snake. He just sent his least experienced soldier to fail.
Big Boss didn't care if he was his clone or just a random soldier in his unit. If Peter Bob was the least experienced soldier, Big Boss would've sent him.
Part of the plan could've been to make Grey Fox disappear. He was sent in first and got "captured". He was never supposed to be freed. In reality, at least that's what I think, he always worked with Big Boss, and being captured was just a ruse.
After Outer Heaven, during the Zanzibar Land incident, he voluntarely worked with Big Boss again, even though BB sent him into a trap.
Fox always fought for what he believed in, not the government.... and I think he believed in Big Boss.
Right, could have worded it better I suppose. He wanted Solid Snake to fail.....which involved Solid Snake getting killed.
My theory is, that one day Cipher started to get wind of Outer Heaven and saw a possible threat in it.
In order to "sell the world" once more, Big Boss left Outer Heaven in the hands of Venom while he himself reemerged into the public eye by becoming the leader of Foxhound, therefore making Cipher believe, that he wasn't involved in Outer Heaven.
He than sent his friend Grey Fox on a mission, he got "captured", than he sent Solid Snake to fail.
To the world it would look like he had tried what he could to destroy Outer Heaven, therefore not working against Cipher. Unfortunately for Big Boss, Solid Snake was controlled by the player :P
Pretty much the prequel to MGS2. Outer Heaven was supposed to be real BB's last stand against Cipher/Zero. He was raising the army there for that purpose and trying to hunt Zero down. I don't think he knew Zero was comatose at the time and that the Patriot AI was already running the show. That's probably why he appears so regretful in 4, because he feels duped into killing or hating everyone he ever cared about.