MGS2 was a Confusing Game.

[Endalrin]

Verdict: MGS2's is either really good or really bad, depending on if you understand Kojima's intentions of the game. It is in some ways, apperently, a mockery of the people who loved his work with Solid, which seems illogical, but it also a sort of, passing the torch from one hero to the next. Which makes a lot more sense. The story is iffy, and not everything works, but the overall message is clear once you understand it.
That said the gameplay was amazing, the characters were interesing and I have yet to find something that tops the katana controller mechanics. That was amazing.

Apperently I am an idiot for thinking MGS2 was bad. lol.

I was pretty much explained that the convulted ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥t is a brilliant writing that mocks the fanbase of the Metal Gear Solid games.

Seriously? That is like, an artist makes an amazing painting or sculpture. And everyone aplauds it and says it is wonderful and they want to see more of it. So he flips them all off, tells them to go ♥♥♥♥ themselves, and makes a second one to mock them.

Where is the logic in this? Where is the sense? People love your work so you ridicule them?

Seriously, the game was a copy of the first, and if that was done just to mock the fanbase then it's an even ♥♥♥♥♥ier game then I thought.

I had fun with it, I had a good laugh. It was a fun play but not anything I would consider a good storyline by any means.

Besides, Metal Gear SOLID, it's about solid snaked. Not Raiden who should have had his own storyline.
If Raiden's only purpose is to mock the fan he shouldn't even exist.


To everyone who thinks I'm an idiot for these viewpoints, Too Bad, We are all entitled to our own opions and name-calling just because I don't agree with you is petty and childish. Get a life.
Amazing how many of you need to get a life. I want a friendly debate and yet you come in here to mock me. How amusing.


I actually would like to hear a valid reason why MGS2 was a good game, not "you don't get it cause you're dumb."

[Endalrin]

Цитата допису Fiddler 🎻:

Цитата допису 0perator 88:

I didn't say once or twice. I said if I have to play it THIRTY times to understand it it's BS.

I already had a friend explain it properly. While you are acting like an arrogant prick who thinks he knows better and thus proving I'm right in finding it stupid.

and serriously? the first game is a copy of the second game? Please explain your ♥♥♥♥ or gtfo.

Alright, you don't even know about the original two Metal Gears, I'm out. Holy ♥♥♥♥

actually I am well aware of those, you're just spewing too much hate to understand what the hell you're saying. Good Bye. :)

[Endalrin]

Цитата допису ItsMeVan:

? the first game is a copy of the second game? Please explain your ♥♥♥♥ or gtfo.

The first MGS is a "copy" of Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake that was released in 1990 for the MSX. The game has a lot of elements that were taken straight out MG2, like the ambush in the elevator, the staircase gunfight, even the "codec frequency on the back of the cd case" thing.
Because it's too similar to MGS doesn't make MGS 2 a bad game. Yes, the storyline is very convoluted, but it's not bad or lazy writing. Yes, Raiden can be annoying at times, but it was Kojima's effort of creating a more relatable protagonist, even though in the end it didn't work at all. Although I still think that MGS 2 is the worst game of the MGS series, it is by no way a bad game, in fact it's still one of the best games I've ever played. I mean it's still way better than the garbage that game developers released these days. I think the fact that you had fun with the game is already enough reason to NOT call it a bad game. But hey, it's your opinion, bro. [/quote]
Ya, I never had a chance to play those games since they are hard to find, as well as the system, or at least not worth my money when it's not my favorite game series to play to start with.

Gameplay wise I loved it, storyline wise I found it pretty awful, at least in the past. The way some people explain it makes a lot more sense but, honestly, whatever the reason, Raiden was rather terrible.
The prodigy child soldier thing was just, meh.

[PhantomPain]

Kojima redeemed himself with MGS3, so I can forgive him for MGS2.

[Endalrin]

Цитата допису PhantomScar1987:

Kojima redeemed himself with MGS3, so I can forgive him for MGS2.

never played cause I couldn't decided what difficulty to play on. (didn't know if I could replace a broken silencer and easy was too easy. >_>)

[SirusTheMadDJ]

Erm...Isn't this accepted by now? MSG2 was still a decent title, but it's one of the weaker titles in the series for sure.

[Endalrin]

Цитата допису ;458607518211966439:

Erm...Isn't this accepted by now? MSG2 was still a decent title, but it's one of the weaker titles in the series for sure.

yes but some people wanted to be rude jerked and riled me up so I wanted to see what others thought.

[Spicy Crab]

Metal Gear is Solid because it's gone 3D and not because this is the story of Solid Snake (what will you tell about Snake Eater, Peace Walker, GZ and TPP?)

[Endalrin]

Цитата допису DeHot:

Metal Gear is Solid because it's gone 3D and not because this is the story of Solid Snake (what will you tell about Snake Eater, Peace Walker, GZ and TPP?):VSnake:

no it is, those are sequels. that tends to happen with many sequels of many things.

[Spicy Crab]

Цитата допису 0perator 88:

no it is, those are sequels. that tends to happen with many sequels of many things.

Tell me then, why Metal Gear 1 and 2 are not Solid?

[Endalrin]

Цитата допису DeHot:

Цитата допису 0perator 88:

no it is, those are sequels. that tends to happen with many sequels of many things.

Tell me then, why Metal Gear 1 and 2 are not Solid?

because....... okay you got me there but they probably called it solid and not 3D or extreme because of his name.

[Sekkuar666]

Цитата допису DeHot:

Цитата допису 0perator 88:

no it is, those are sequels. that tends to happen with many sequels of many things.

Tell me then, why Metal Gear 1 and 2 are not Solid?

"Metal Gear" is the name of the games for MSX

When they moved out of 8bit to a better system (Playstation 32bit), they changed the name from "Metal Gear" to "Metal Gear Solid", and that remained the name of the series until now.

How is it hard to understand?

Metal Gear "Rising", isn't called "Solid" because the story of the Patriots is over, and so is the story of Metal Gear "Solid", therefore, "Rising" is a whole new story

[ItsMeVan]

Цитата допису 0perator 88:

Цитата допису DeHot:

Metal Gear is Solid because it's gone 3D and not because this is the story of Solid Snake (what will you tell about Snake Eater, Peace Walker, GZ and TPP?):VSnake:

no it is, those are sequels. that tends to happen with many sequels of many things.

But, MGS 2 is a sequel......

[Tricks]

Raiden was a weak character who nobody asked for. From what I understood, Kojima was the only one who liked him.

That being said, overall MGS2 wasn't a bad game. Maybe it couldn't measure up to the other games in the series, but I still liked it for the most part. For one, it had some cool antagonists. The story personally I think was pretty cool.

Then it gave us these memorable lines:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68mbFvenlaQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucr7GAjD6rk

[Sekkuar666]

Цитата допису Tricks:

Tricks, do you remember the day we met?

[ZaN]

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