METAL GEAR SOLID V: THE PHANTOM PAIN

METAL GEAR SOLID V: THE PHANTOM PAIN

Tricks Jan 20, 2016 @ 6:37am
Voice actors
I know at this point it's just raising a dead argument, but I have to say after playing over 100 hours of the game... why was Hayter replaced?

Kojima said David Hayter wasn't returning for MGSV because he wanted someone who was more expressive, someone who could show more emotion in their voice. So what do we get... Sutherland delivering almost no dialogue, and when he does it's in a gruff monotone with no emotion.

To this day I still want to understand what happened there. Was there some kind of falling out? Or did Kojima get a big head and decided he wanted a Hollywood actor because he was too good for Hayter? Or was it because he was jealous of the fact that Hayter was so well-liked by MGS fans and thought of as Snake?

As far as I know, Hayter was the only VA that was replaced. The VA in the Japanese version wasn't. All the other characters remain the same even though they're all older now as well.

So what happened? I'm enjoying MGSV (for the most part) but more and more I'm feeling like Kojima must have just lost it at the end, maybe his ego got too big for him to handle, and that's what lead to some of the decisions he made (no Hayter, leaving Konami.) These are all assumptions of course.
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Hartor Jan 20, 2016 @ 6:40am 
Konami is idiot :Miller:
Tricks Jan 20, 2016 @ 6:42am 
Originally posted by Hartor:
Konami is idiot :Miller:

I'm not really questioning that, but... that doesn't mean none of the blame lies on Kojima.
Luxia Jan 20, 2016 @ 6:48am 
I think that reason for replacement will become obvious as soon as you finish mission 46
iNFiNiTE Jan 20, 2016 @ 6:49am 
because we are the phantoms not the real boss
Luxia Jan 20, 2016 @ 6:51am 
Originally posted by itzNight:
because we are the phantoms not the real boss
Im ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ speechless
Ggwp
spellcaster Jan 20, 2016 @ 6:51am 
Originally posted by Raddenson11 //out for a week:
I think that reason for replacement will become obvious as soon as you finish mission 46
why does big boss have the same voice as venom snake then
Sutherland brings certain... "gravitas" to the role. Given the tone of the overall game, I highly doubt Hayter could been able to pull off certain lines with the efficiency that Sutherland delivers them. Hayter can bring certain "playfulness" to the character that is certainly missing here, but again, that, I am guessing, was the intention.
Sagara Sousuke Jan 20, 2016 @ 6:55am 
Since we are talking about voice acting.. im VERY disappointed the few conversations and stuff alike there are on this game. Just look at gameplay from previous Metal Gears, specially when interrogating soldiers, THEY DON'T VOICE IT!

And previously you had like 6 lines per soldier when you interrogate them, here you have 2.
Ze Jan 20, 2016 @ 6:57am 
Same reason Hayter didn't voice Big Boss in MGS4
Qwertion Jan 20, 2016 @ 7:15am 
They used some non-conventional mocap technology. Which requires to perform some actions while speaking in those action parts. Hayter was too old to get the moves right, as I understand. Adequate explanaitions might be find someplace else online.
Sagara Sousuke Jan 20, 2016 @ 7:19am 
Originally posted by Qwertion:
They used some non-conventional mocap technology. Which requires to perform some actions while speaking in those action parts. Hayter was too old to get the moves right, as I understand. Adequate explanaitions might be find someplace else online.

For what i remember from the credits i think that Sutherland only did the face capture and not body capture of Snake.
Lucky Flame Jan 20, 2016 @ 7:20am 
I agree with You. (Ha).

This was definitely all on Kojima for this one. I think he just wanted someone he perceived could fill the roll in a more serious-toned game. Honestly, I can see Hayter's really cartoony/gravelly Big Boss voice from Peace Walker not blending well with this game. Hell, even Miller's voice has an overall different tone to it than in Peace Walker.

There's also the case of the whole facial capture stuff, and Kojima talking about how he wanted to get more emotion across through facial expressions rather than descriptive sentences. I think the problem most people have is actually just the idea that Hayter couldn't have done just as well in those postions too. Or that he couldn't maybe add some seriousness to his voice acting role for this game.

But really, go listen to Big Boss's speech from Peace Walker; it fits that game well, but I doubt that voice would fit the "Big Boss" we know in this game. The "Big Boss" in this game is very reserved comapred to Peace Walker, and so I think in that way choosing someone like Sutherland was a good idea. I don't doubt that people would be complaining about Hayter's performance had he stayed for this game. But that's not to say that he hasn't done a good job up to this point; but again, that was for a more personable Snake/Big Boss.
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Hazy_Maze_Cave Jan 20, 2016 @ 7:20am 
they discussed this years ago. try googling an old interview on it. here i will help you

http://www.google.com

clicking on that link will take you to the GOOGLE SEARCH ENGINE

using the google search you can find the answer you are looking for

don't be lazy now
Sagara Sousuke Jan 20, 2016 @ 7:22am 
OMG this Google thing is amazing!
Hazy_Maze_Cave Jan 20, 2016 @ 7:26am 
Originally posted by Tricks:
Originally posted by Hartor:
Konami is idiot :Miller:

I'm not really questioning that, but... that doesn't mean none of the blame lies on Kojima.

lol "Blame" are you serious

yes too bad he hired a qualified Hollywood actor to delivery these lines. have to blame him for that.

Kiefer does a better job than Hayter would have with this material. you are confusing quantity with quality. by Peace Walker he had fallen into total self-parody with the voice.

LOL @ Kojima's ego. are you ♥♥♥♥♥♥ serious? why are you even playing this game series? you may as well go to a Nintendo forum on Super Smash Bros. and start bashing Masahiro Sakurai for having a big ego.

news for you: the big ego resulted in the big Metal Gear series.

take away Kojima, no MGS, no MGS2, no MGS3, no MGS4, no MGS:PW.

i guess at least you will be left with nothing to complain about
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