METAL GEAR SOLID V: THE PHANTOM PAIN

METAL GEAR SOLID V: THE PHANTOM PAIN

Fortus Victus 2016년 3월 15일 오전 11시 02분
AM A114 RP aka Riot pistol
Anyone tried it yet? I have research locked down for awhile and won't beable to for a week at least, any thoughts?
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Matthew 2016년 3월 15일 오후 2시 41분 
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The Zorn is single shot before it needs to be reloaded. We'll have see how it compares in the game, since the stats don't paint the full picture.
Yup, Zorn is single shot and has 16 total ammo load, but this new riot pistol can shoot twice before reloading and only has 8 total ammo load. I think the RP might be stronger than the Zorn since lower ammo count usually exists to balance out powerful weapons. Take note of how the damage bar of the RP is higher than any Zorn pistol or any existing tranquilizer gun.

Oh and I just found out the Grade 7 RP is the starting one, it can be upgraded all the way up to Grade 9 which increases ammo count.

I've seen it in action in a video, though it is a tad suspect. And I've got to say, I'm not impressed. The radius is quite small (only about the size of a head) whereas the Zorn has a radius of about 5 meters. But I'll have to see it for myself.
E. Grey 2016년 3월 15일 오후 2시 53분 
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youphie14님이 먼저 게시:
I was expecting that new hammer rifle to come first.

I'm glad they didn't make it ★9 with 12 (or 14) days to develop, and now I'll have to wait only 3 days to try it out. The descprition is very interesting.

The Grade 7 RP takes 3 days. There's are Grade 8 and 9 versions after you've developed Grade 7.

Sure. I was just pointing out that if they'd put out only ★9 version we'd have to wait longer before we'd be able to try it in action. Now I can develop ★7 and see if I need ★9 all that much.

You know, if a weapon or an item takes too long to develop and then when you finally get it and it turns out to be something you wouldn't use at all, it's such a disappointment.
moistalicious 2016년 3월 15일 오후 2시 54분 
Matthew님이 먼저 게시:
Patrick Bateman님이 먼저 게시:
Yup, Zorn is single shot and has 16 total ammo load, but this new riot pistol can shoot twice before reloading and only has 8 total ammo load. I think the RP might be stronger than the Zorn since lower ammo count usually exists to balance out powerful weapons. Take note of how the damage bar of the RP is higher than any Zorn pistol or any existing tranquilizer gun.

Oh and I just found out the Grade 7 RP is the starting one, it can be upgraded all the way up to Grade 9 which increases ammo count.

I've seen it in action in a video, though it is a tad suspect. And I've got to say, I'm not impressed. The radius is quite small (only about the size of a head) whereas the Zorn has a radius of about 5 meters. But I'll have to see it for myself.
Do you still have the link to the vid? I'd like to see if it's worth the resources to develop. I tried looking it up on YouTube but didn't find anything.
Matthew 2016년 3월 15일 오후 2시 57분 
Patrick Bateman님이 먼저 게시:
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I've seen it in action in a video, though it is a tad suspect. And I've got to say, I'm not impressed. The radius is quite small (only about the size of a head) whereas the Zorn has a radius of about 5 meters. But I'll have to see it for myself.
Do you still have the link to the vid? I'd like to see if it's worth the resources to develop. I tried looking it up on YouTube but didn't find anything.

The following is a video of said pistol in action, but you should always try it out before judging whether or not it's worth it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gccpZwtgbR4

And here's a video of a small detail about revolvers that I previously did not know about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gX6vZHapW8
moistalicious 2016년 3월 15일 오후 3시 11분 
Matthew님이 먼저 게시:
Patrick Bateman님이 먼저 게시:
Do you still have the link to the vid? I'd like to see if it's worth the resources to develop. I tried looking it up on YouTube but didn't find anything.

The following is a video of said pistol in action, but you should always try it out before judging whether or not it's worth it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gccpZwtgbR4

And here's a video of a small detail about revolvers that I previously did not know about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gX6vZHapW8
Thanks, from the looks of it, the RP pistol is interesting. I'll definitely develop it.

And it's because that revolver has high penetration I think.
E. Grey 2016년 3월 15일 오후 3시 16분 
I wonder if this pistol works with body shots.
Matthew 2016년 3월 15일 오후 3시 17분 
Patrick Bateman님이 먼저 게시:
Matthew님이 먼저 게시:

The following is a video of said pistol in action, but you should always try it out before judging whether or not it's worth it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gccpZwtgbR4

And here's a video of a small detail about revolvers that I previously did not know about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gX6vZHapW8
Thanks, from the looks of it, the RP pistol is interesting. I'll definitely develop it.

And it's because that revolver has high penetration I think.

The revolver has a penetration similar to most of the sniper rifles and 9mm pistols, but I don't remember them being able to penetrate the helmets of those riot suits.
Matthew 2016년 3월 15일 오후 3시 18분 
youphie14님이 먼저 게시:
I wonder if this pistol works with body shots.

Based on how small the volume of gas is, I would have to say no.
Fortus Victus 2016년 3월 15일 오후 3시 33분 
Thanks for the vid. And I must say if thats the current way they operate, will prob pass on that myself. A silent pistol that negates helmets is cool and all, but not at 8 total shots. Don't even think it would be a viable PvP weapon as there are several cheaper suppresed weapons that can do 1 hit knockouts and have much more ammo.

thanks again for the vids, and with the revolvers, yes they have very high pen and impact similar to a shotgun slug, but are rather inaccurate at range and have limited ammo. One of my favorite pistols for fob defense was the Uragan-Air for awhile. It is basicaly a S1000 NL shot (1 shot stuns even thru helmets) in a pistol. but suffers from alot of falloff and range issues.
E. Grey 2016년 3월 15일 오후 4시 23분 
Matthew님이 먼저 게시:
youphie14님이 먼저 게시:
I wonder if this pistol works with body shots.

Based on how small the volume of gas is, I would have to say no.

Well, at least it takes a headshot, not a faceshot. Seems more practical than all the tranq pistols. The relevant nunce here is how the guards react to it. Do they react as if someone got shot (like with S1000) or as just fell down (liek with tranq pistols).
Matthew 2016년 3월 15일 오후 4시 48분 
youphie14님이 먼저 게시:
Matthew님이 먼저 게시:

Based on how small the volume of gas is, I would have to say no.

Well, at least it takes a headshot, not a faceshot. Seems more practical than all the tranq pistols. The relevant nunce here is how the guards react to it. Do they react as if someone got shot (like with S1000) or as just fell down (liek with tranq pistols).

It's the same reaction as they get when they suddenly fall asleep.
Red 2016년 3월 15일 오후 4시 56분 
Matthew님이 먼저 게시:
youphie14님이 먼저 게시:

Well, at least it takes a headshot, not a faceshot. Seems more practical than all the tranq pistols. The relevant nunce here is how the guards react to it. Do they react as if someone got shot (like with S1000) or as just fell down (liek with tranq pistols).

It's the same reaction as they get when they suddenly fall asleep.

There's a problem though, the way the gun is coded like makes it so the other guards react to the "smoke" close to the body rather than the asleep guard, which means this gun is a pretty much guaranteed soft alert if any guard is remotely close to him.

It's really not worth it at all, and the deployment costs are absurd and it has low ammo. Stick to other guns.
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Kotow_To_Jigglypuff 2016년 3월 16일 오전 12시 02분 
Matthew님이 먼저 게시:
The Zorn is single shot before it needs to be reloaded. We'll have see how it compares in the game, since the stats don't paint the full picture.

The Zorn is considered a grenade launcher hence it's not a silent weapon. On the other side, the AM A114 is fully silent and almost act like a Zzz handgun. This gun is a real monster in lethal FOB, just like the WU S. +SB pistol is in non lethal. Besides, the smoke AoE dissipates faster than some usual sleeping grenade launcher, making it stealthier if used efficiently.

The only drawback I could find is that security staff can see the smoke very well and at very good range if they get it in their line of sight.
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E. Grey 2016년 3월 16일 오전 1시 45분 
★9 version requires about 130k gmp and 6k of biological material per deployment. Medical team must be at lvl 130 to develop it. I think I'll continue using burkov.
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Xmerwynd 2016년 3월 16일 오전 2시 57분 
Fortus Victus님이 먼저 게시:
Anyone tried it yet? I have research locked down for awhile and won't beable to for a week at least, any thoughts?
I have developed it. Very low ammo capacity, two in the magazine, one in the chamber, five additional rounds, very effective drops target instantly. Nice for immediate drop of lethal security in battlegear.
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