Tranq weapons are one of the worst things about this game

[gc16]

They're too powerful. I get that you can choose not to use them, but the game, especially FOBs, is entirely balanced around them. As a result, endgame or FOB gameplay feels more like an arcade dolphin diving simulator than a stealth game. I've thought of a way the game could implement them better (even though it's probably pointless since there won't be new titles):

1. Tranquilizer headshots wouldn't be instant; they would only slightly decrease the time for the tranquilizer to take effect.
   
2. Suppressed Assault Rifles/Snipers would only work in open spaces and at a minimum distance of around 50 meters.
   
3. In closed spaces or at short distances, you'd have to use your suppressed lethal pistol.
   
4. Tranquilizer weapons, especially the Sniper, would have high usage costs, fewer bullets,
   and be a late-game item.

[Original Cast Recording]

Not bad ideas out of context, but MGS was always characterized by an amount of silliness. The base game is not hardcore. You have to make it so. The old games had max score ranks for clearing the whole thing in two hours with no alerts or whatever. The player isn't expected to do that sort of thing normally.

[stunt_man]

Players always looking for challenge in weird places. I can understand that tranq headshots can be OP if you are playing with markers, reflex, deploying only at night with full camo, etc. But in the spirit of challenging yourself, rather than wishing the tranqs were nerfed, try playing with all Display Settings off (no HUD at all) and your playstyle will instantly need to change to adapt. Of course tranq is still powerful but the added challenge of playing with no wall pills/markers/etc nicely balances out the difficulty. I'm kind of disappointed there isn't a "no HUD" bonus. Personally I've been playing like this for years and trying to work my way towards deploying Naked/ASAP as well as no HUD. The biggest hurdle in FOB's is reliably finding high level bases to infiltrate due to the broken matchmaking.

[Vagrant]

ahah rocket arm go BRRRRRRRR

[wmhenry]

flash stun is the worst at least with sleep you don't get the white screen of death

[niralamart000]

bro that's not how fun works, that's the sissy route to make the game more constrained besides tranq gun and rifle ain't the meta, gut gud kid it's stuns

[stunt_man]

watch out everyone we got a gamer on our hands! no sneaking allowed in this stealth game, only sweaty flashbang dance meta

[wotbop]

Originally posted by stunt_man:

watch out everyone we got a gamer on our hands! no sneaking allowed in this stealth game, only sweaty flashbang dance meta

MY EYES

[NPC_With_Plot_Armor]

What's the difference between a headshot with a tranq and a regular bullet? The guard falls asleep instantly or he dies instantly. Take instant tranq shots away and it becomes "throw a million magazines/flash bang/sleep grenade" simulator. Doesn't really make a lot of sense to take away the instantaneous sleep since it wouldn't change gameplay in the way you would hope.

[Mehrshad]

he played mgo thats why he is saying this

[TheGameChief]

Remove all suppressors.
Balances the whole game.
gg ez.

[Xddc]

This guy out here tryin' to make tranquilizers be on Lies of P levels of balance.

[Xddc]

Originally posted by Sleipnir:

What's the difference between a headshot with a tranq and a regular bullet? The guard falls asleep instantly or he dies instantly. Take instant tranq shots away and it becomes "throw a million magazines/flash bang/sleep grenade" simulator. Doesn't really make a lot of sense to take away the instantaneous sleep since it wouldn't change gameplay in the way you would hope.

Well the drug is getting injected STRAIGHT into the brain, whereas if it was in the leg the cocktail would have a significantly longer time traveling up the body.
A tranq headshot actually makes a lot of sense.

Plus some soldiers based on where you hit them have tranqs not go off; the dart cant hit a helmets plating for example or it just tinks off, learned that the hard way when I tried to retrieve an S class soldier who was a body guard. His helmet made the tranq round TINK! off, whereas if I just aimed a lil' lower it would of hit him.

[LSD]

Originally posted by stunt_man:

watch out everyone we got a gamer on our hands! no sneaking allowed in this stealth game, only sweaty flashbang dance meta

Saying "sweaty" is the sign of an ultimate gamer. You must be le epic at the metal geareds.

[stunt_man]

Just not a fan of stun/sleep launcher meta. PvP is way more interesting without it. Also note that I was piling on to my boy niralamart000's rhetoric it was not meant to be a serious comment.

[Leaf™]

lol this game has a meta?