Any mods to unlock the grade 8-9 weapons while being offline?

[Skelet0nJazzWizard]

I play with the mod The Ultimate Phantom Pain Mod by NasaNha (http://www.nexusmods.com/metalgearsolidvtpp/mods/188/? ) and I don't even see them listed as I'm forced offline for clear reasons of not screwing with people on FOB's (which is completely fair) but I'd like to access these weapons etc, since gaining materials are actually reasonable.

[Xmerwynd]

level 7 & 8 equipment can only be developed online;thank you for considering the consequences of the mod on online play. I routinely see level 0 fobs with 6-7 million affense and defense LOL

[erretter]

Holy f#ck. I just read about this mod. This is pure cheating.

F#ck you!

[BitsOfSkin]

Nguyên văn bởi Erretter:

Holy f#ck. I just read about this mod. This is pure cheating.

F#ck you!

He's playing 100% offline because he realises this wouldn't be fair to others, so stop whining you silly manchild.

[No_Quarter]

Nguyên văn bởi BitsOfSkin:

Nguyên văn bởi Erretter:

Holy f#ck. I just read about this mod. This is pure cheating.

F#ck you!

He's playing 100% offline because he realises this wouldn't be fair to others, so stop whining you silly manchild.

it's still cheating, as he is investing way less that he should be, gathering resources for grade 9 offline would take weeks if he plays it by the game economy and doesn't cheat

[kuraiken]

Nguyên văn bởi No_Quarter:

Nguyên văn bởi BitsOfSkin:

He's playing 100% offline because he realises this wouldn't be fair to others, so stop whining you silly manchild.

it's still cheating, as he is investing way less that he should be, gathering resources for grade 9 offline would take weeks if he plays it by the game economy and doesn't cheat

Don't you have any better problems? Like the Online Cheaters with invulnerability? Or the people who use Cheat Engine to cheat themselves millions of nukes or other assets and thus own the virtual battles?
No sir, your biggest issue is that someone doesn't spend as much time wasting his life away grinding as you think he ought to.
What a champ.

[No_Quarter]

playing by game's rules is too hard, I get it...

[kuraiken]

Nguyên văn bởi No_Quarter:

playing by game's rules is too hard, I get it...

No, I don't think you get it at all. You have absolutely zero business telling other people how to play and enjoy their games as long as it doesn't directly affect you. It's none of your concern. If you like spending hours grinding containers and restarting after savepoints to do another run, that's your business. And if someone else has better things to do with his time, then you'll simply have to live with that.

[No_Quarter]

but it does effect me, check his PF numbers

it is hard to follow rules, once you get used to bypassing them you can't go back, you even feel smarter when you play the game your own way even if it's 10x easier you still feel smarter

[kuraiken]

Nguyên văn bởi No_Quarter:

but it does effect me, check his PF numbers

it is hard to follow rules, once you get used to bypassing them you can't go back, you even feel smarter when you play the game your own way even if it's 10x easier you still feel smarter

Ressources and Development don't affect PF numbers in any significant way. What affects PF numbers is hundreds of cheated Vehicles and Nukes.

I think you have one hell of a distorted perception of the world. Have you ever considered that if you only think after rules, you'll never be capeable to create rules after thoughts?

Do you really think grinding makes a game difficult? It makes it tedious, that's it. A waste of time. Difficulty doesn't mean that something is unpleasent and a lot of work, difficulty means your capabilities of playing, your reactions and your knowledge are being tested. There's no difference between looting a container once or twice in the same amount of time, except for the time you're wasting.

And making a game too easy doesn't make you feel smarter, it makes the game feel unenjoyable and boring. The treshold for that however differs between people, it's not the same for everyone. I use a mod that allows my enemies to see and hear me from twice as far away and makes their bullets do 2.5 times as much damage. From where I'm staying, my friend, you're chilling in easy mode, just tapping buttons without ever being challenged, lazying about in the no-skill mainstream zone designed by konami for people who never played a shooter. What you call a challenge, I call a cake-walk.

[No_Quarter]

not sure then how all those "offline" players have 9999999+ PF powers.... coincidence for sure

rules of any game are made by careful balancing and lots of testing and then there comes a very smart person who uses trainer and ruins everything

statistically cheaters get bored of each game way faster than players who enjoy the game as it was intended, call me distorted, but I'm not the one who will distort the game...
there are graphs of time/tactical/fun and each game is placed with intention to bring you something, I have too much respect for Hideo to distort any part of his game

[Matty]

I'd actually like to try this, I only started work on the Online weapons a week ago and with the development times and being limited to 4 in progress at a time, it's being a pain deciding what I want to develop next. Being able to try them out in a offline environment would be fun! and help with those decisions.

I honestly cant see me maintaining interest in the game for long enough to unlock everything given the time it takes.

[No_Quarter]

I developed every item in game (before this update) and to tell you the truth you don't need most of those.
what you need is:
AR with grade 3 suppressor so you can mount that on everything
Grade 7 NL/lethal semi-auto sniper
Grade 7 S1000 stun
Grade 7 Battle Dress

everything else works fine even on grade 6, just mash something up from few weapons, put some crazy underbarrel and you're fine, I never use anything but that, higher grade items work slightly better but it just makes the game too easy

you need some higher grade security team items, but that's for FOB's

[Matty]

There are more levels to some of the security team equipable gear and levels of the sneaking suit and combat armor with this update though, and new weapons appearing, the fulton rocket launcher, still haven't got the Mhirzah grenade laucher and other new bits I'm exploring. And even though I may not use the wepons there are often bits I want for customization, spotted a (possibly new?) night vision scope option for assult rifles on a grade 8 G44-9. Plus the added levels to afew of the security devices.

I'd never use it on my game now, since I play online, but it would be nice to have some way to try out these things, in an enviroment that had no impact on the real game, for fun and to see whether its worth the 10 or more days development time.


Tbh, my ideal solution would probably be a base of 4 slots for researching with an added 1, maybe even 2 slots per extra FOB you invest in.

[No_Quarter]

that sounds pretty nice, but Konami can't make money out of that you know... I'm not against microtransactions, just in TPP it has been implemented all wrong, they could make a way more money if they played it smarter and not so hungry

those grade 8+ items cost fortune to deploy, so no need to rush development cause you can use developing time to gather resources you need to deploy it and develop next item.

here's near maximum deployment cost price before the update
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=668741988

[lockinhind]

Nguyên văn bởi No_Quarter:

Nguyên văn bởi BitsOfSkin:

He's playing 100% offline because he realises this wouldn't be fair to others, so stop whining you silly manchild.

it's still cheating, as he is investing way less that he should be, gathering resources for grade 9 offline would take weeks if he plays it by the game economy and doesn't cheat

yes but who cares, he's playing offline, if you want i cheat in fallout and skyrim, does that make me bad, id say no because im playing sp.