What's the point of higher grade tranq pistols?

[Kethus]

Grade 2 WU offers a huge effective range over grade 1 and that's it, the next upgrades only up the damage while becoming more expensive and start requiring herbs to use. I suppose it would be easier to tranq someone if you can't hit their head, but I'd assume that by the time you can afford something better you would have gotten good enough to score headshots with the lesser pistols. And maybe even switch back to grade 1 to get tactical takedowns easier, if they are relevant, idk. The only significant upgrade after grade 2 is grade 8 that boosts the effective range even more and adds a scope, but it costs 47k GMP, 850 precious metals, and 320 flowers to use for a single mission. What the hell is it made of to require such maintenance...

I still use the grade 1 pistol to save resources and modified it with a larger magazine and a better suppressor. Even if grade 2 has better range I still can't hit things with heads smaller than the pistol's sights anyway.

[R!SK]

I thought about that as well and I started to use grade 1 tranq pistol, the problem was, I ran out of bullets because it has less bullets and I ran out of supressor even faster than bullets so there's the problem right there.

[Phyrric]

Damage in this context is more potent tranq rounds, but all that does is make body hits more effective, since headshots are instant no matter what.

The only difference I can think of is more available modifications you can put on/change. But I only use the Brukov once I unlocked the tranq version of it, so doesn't really concern me.

Originally posted by MGSFC RiSk:

I thought about that as well and I started to use grade 1 tranq pistol, the problem was, I ran out of bullets because it has less bullets and I ran out of supressor even faster than bullets so there's the problem right there.

You can just put on a better suppressor and bigger mag on the lower tier versions and suffer 0 losses.

[Kethus]

Originally posted by MGSFC RiSk:

I thought about that as well and I started to use grade 1 tranq pistol, the problem was, I ran out of bullets because it has less bullets and I ran out of supressor even faster than bullets so there's the problem right there.

Yeah, you likely didn't see my edit, I modified the gun to have more ammo and a lvl 2 suppressor and it's all good. Still costs only 80 GMP to use.

[R!SK]

Originally posted by CompletedQuill:

Damage in this context is more potent tranq rounds, but all that does is make body hits more effective, since headshots are instant no matter what.

The only difference I can think of is more available modifications you can put on/change. But I only use the Brukov once I unlocked the tranq version of it, so doesn't really concern me.

Originally posted by MGSFC RiSk:

I thought about that as well and I started to use grade 1 tranq pistol, the problem was, I ran out of bullets because it has less bullets and I ran out of supressor even faster than bullets so there's the problem right there.

You can just put on a better suppressor and bigger mag on the lower tier versions and suffer 0 losses.

And that doesn't add up GMP, right? My god, I forgot about that. Well I already have my 3 custom slots with the best weapons but yeah I didn't think about that.

[Phyrric]

Originally posted by MGSFC RiSk:

Originally posted by CompletedQuill:

Damage in this context is more potent tranq rounds, but all that does is make body hits more effective, since headshots are instant no matter what.

The only difference I can think of is more available modifications you can put on/change. But I only use the Brukov once I unlocked the tranq version of it, so doesn't really concern me.



You can just put on a better suppressor and bigger mag on the lower tier versions and suffer 0 losses.

And that doesn't add up GMP, right? My god, I forgot about that. Well I already have my 3 custom slots with the best weapons but yeah I didn't think about that.

IIRC, only the underbarrel mounts (grenade launcher, shotgun, pistol, etc.) increase deployement costs.

I have one loadout dedicated to being as bear-bones and cheap as possible, for grinding purposes. It's a shame you can't put scopes on the tier 1 assault rifle, makes sniping a bit harder...

[R!SK]

Originally posted by CompletedQuill:

Originally posted by MGSFC RiSk:

And that doesn't add up GMP, right? My god, I forgot about that. Well I already have my 3 custom slots with the best weapons but yeah I didn't think about that.

IIRC, only the underbarrel mounts (grenade launcher, shotgun, pistol, etc.) increase deployement costs.

I have one loadout dedicated to being as bear-bones and cheap as possible, for grinding purposes. It's a shame you can't put scopes on the tier 1 assault rifle, makes sniping a bit harder...

Yeah, and it's a shame there's only 3 loadouts, I have one for lethal fobs, non lethal fob, explosive for defending fobs and I need a low cost one like you said. I can change yeah but even MGO has 7 loadouts.

[Phyrric]

Originally posted by MGSFC RiSk:

Originally posted by CompletedQuill:

IIRC, only the underbarrel mounts (grenade launcher, shotgun, pistol, etc.) increase deployement costs.

I have one loadout dedicated to being as bear-bones and cheap as possible, for grinding purposes. It's a shame you can't put scopes on the tier 1 assault rifle, makes sniping a bit harder...

Yeah, and it's a shame there's only 3 loadouts, I have one for lethal fobs, non lethal fob, explosive for defending fobs and I need a low cost one like you said. I can change yeah but even MGO has 7 loadouts.

No kidding.

Another annoying thing is that the loadouts don't save certain things, like Tools or Character setups. Changing outfits and such is easy enough, since you see the character, But I often go in with full wormhole fultons, change, get done grinding and then deploy into afgan/afrika with normal tier 1 fultons.

Seriously don't get why they made so few slots for modifiable weapons and poorly done Loadouts.

[Holografix]

there's an AP glass piercing tranq gun at level 5. you can't break FOB lights with the level 2 tranq pistol. then there's the all powerful +SB version which is fitted with elephant tranquilizers that take down NL guards in one shot.

[Lucky Flame]

Yeah, the grade 7 +SB tranq gun with infinite suppressor is broken.

[TSense]

Originally posted by Kethus:

I suppose it would be easier to tranq someone if you can't hit their head, but I'd assume that by the time you can afford something better you would have gotten good enough to score headshots with the lesser pistols.

I like to body shot the first few and headshot the rest.
As nobody cares about bodyshots you can take care of some without they running around to much.

[Shalashaska]

Grade 5 has an infinite supressor and a cooler iron sight.

[Phyrric]

Originally posted by Shalashaska:

Grade 5 has an infinite supressor and a cooler iron sight.

Infinite supressors are practically useless in the long run, as you'll rarely shoot enough to break a level 2 supressor

[Shalashaska]

Originally posted by CompletedQuill:

Originally posted by Shalashaska:

Grade 5 has an infinite supressor and a cooler iron sight.

Infinite supressors are practically useless in the long run, as you'll rarely shoot enough to break a level 2 supressor

Still looks better than the supressor.

[lazy skunk]

suppressors r1-r2-r3 provide 15-30-60 shots respectively. thus for all wu pistols (that are maxed to 30 ammo) r2 is enough.

[Holografix]

Originally posted by Lucky Flame:

Yeah, the grade 7 +SB tranq gun with infinite suppressor is broken.

how is it broken? if it wasn't a one-shot-zzz then i couldn't do half the NL FOBs that i do.