METAL GEAR SOLID V: THE PHANTOM PAIN

METAL GEAR SOLID V: THE PHANTOM PAIN

this is my first metal gear game and I find it stupid and confusing?
Why am I in hospital? Why do soldiers want to kill me? Who was the woman assassin who killed the nurse? Who is the guy helping me and why? Who is the fire guy? Why are the soldiers too stupid to fight fire with water? Who is the horse riding cowboy getting me away from the fire guy? Is this confusion intentional, or are all these plot holes covered by the other parts of the game?
Ultima modifica da sick duck; 11 ago 2018, ore 23:22
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You will get the gist of it as you complete the game but if you really need to be up to speed you will need to follow MGS3 and Peacewalker's story at least. You can get them on youtube.

edit : play ground zero or get the story at least.
Ultima modifica da Kalsu; 11 ago 2018, ore 23:29
Messaggio originale di Joseph:
Why am I in hospital? Why do soldiers want to kill me? Who was the woman assassin who killed the nurse? Who is the guy helping me and why? Who is the fire guy? Why are the soldiers too stupid to fight fire with water? Who is the horse riding cowboy getting me away from the fire guy? Is this confusion intentional, or are all these plot holes covered by the other parts of the game?
The confusion is intentional though you would know some of the characters if you played other games in the series (the "cowboy" for example) others such as the man on fire and the assassin you will understand after you play through the game.
Messaggio originale di Joseph:
Why am I in hospital? Why do soldiers want to kill me? Who was the woman assassin who killed the nurse? Who is the guy helping me and why? Who is the fire guy? Why are the soldiers too stupid to fight fire with water? Who is the horse riding cowboy getting me away from the fire guy? Is this confusion intentional, or are all these plot holes covered by the other parts of the game?
1. Play MGSV: Ground Zeroes if you want to find out why you're hospitalised.
It's on Steam so you should have no problem getting it.
2. If you pay attention to what people were saying, the world wants you dead including a certain organisation.
3. Probably part of said organisation.
4. Play the game to find out who he is and why he helped you.
5. Who knows? If you play the previous MGS games and listen to the cassette tapes, you may find out who he is.
6. Because they're not thinking properly?
7. Let's just say, he's your ally. If you play the previous MGS games, you would know him better.

Take note that this game takes place between MGS: GZ and the original Metal Gear 1 (MSX version).
Lots of fans recommend that you play the game series in release order rather than chronological order so it would be less confusing so once you're done with The Phantom Pain, you should start playing them by release order.
Messaggio originale di Joseph:
Why am I in hospital?

If you only bought The Phantom Pain, refund before you 2 hours and purchase The Definitive Edition so you get both Ground Zeroes and The Phantom Pain. Ground Zeroes explains why you're in the hospital.

Messaggio originale di Joseph:
Why do soldiers want to kill me?

A particular organization wants you dead. They want your dead because you are opposition to their goals, although they are not the primary focus of this particular game, so they're only mentioned in passing. For this game, it's well enough just to know of their existence and their desire to kill you.

Messaggio originale di Joseph:
Who was the woman assassin who killed the nurse?

You will find out later.

Messaggio originale di Joseph:
Who is the guy helping me and why?

That's like reading the last page of the book before you ready everything else. Play the game and you'll find out who he is at or near the end of the game.

Messaggio originale di Joseph:
Who is the fire guy?

He's from MGS3, although he was not a fire guy in MGS3. The fire guy was what he became after MGS3 or quite possibly as the result of the end of MGS3.

Messaggio originale di Joseph:
Why are the soldiers too stupid to fight fire with water?

Because the game isn't about the soldiers, it's about you. Who cares otherwise.

Messaggio originale di Joseph:
Who is the horse riding cowboy getting me away from the fire guy?

He's your friend and ally, though he wasn't always. MGS3 he was your nemesis, now he's become your best friend, if one can actually have friends in the world of lies, deceit and espionage.

Messaggio originale di Joseph:
Is this confusion intentional, or are all these plot holes covered by the other parts of the game?

You haven't uncovered any plot holes yet. Just information that you want to know before it's time to know it or information that is only loosely significant to this game, but are actually references to previous games. If you bought the Definitive Edition which covers both games Ground Zeroes and The Phantom Pain, then you would get the rest of what you're missing.

To really understand most of your perceived plot holes though, you should play MGS3 and Peace Walker. That would cover pretty well all of the references that you're not getting from other games. Though they are all really insignificant to this game and don't really need to know them to enjoy this one.
If this is your first MGS game and you didn't do research, then it's normal that characters like the cowboy will be mystery to you... I mean you'd know them if you had played previous titles. I won't play the last Tomb Raider without playing any previous ones and complain I don't know who the ♥♥♥♥ the characters are.
Also why you're in a hospital and why the soldiers/assassin attack you is explained to you by the doctor. Try to actually listen and you'll follow the story. Also not everything is explained straight away at the begining of the game. It's the same for every game.
Complaigning about not understanding the story while picking the serie up at the 5th entry... Lmao.
Messaggio originale di Kimurion:
Complaigning about not understanding the story while picking the serie up at the 5th entry... Lmao.

5th entry? Are we counting MG1 & 2 and also PW? Wouldn't that make 5 actually the 7th or 8th in the series?
Messaggio originale di Snake Eater:
Messaggio originale di Kimurion:
Complaigning about not understanding the story while picking the serie up at the 5th entry... Lmao.

5th entry? Are we counting MG1 & 2 and also PW? Wouldn't that make 5 actually the 7th or 8th in the series?

The game is called MGS 5 ( not really but you know.. ) And it's the guy's first MGS game, let's not confuses him even more.
Ultima modifica da Uryon; 12 ago 2018, ore 5:11
Messaggio originale di Joseph:
Why am I in hospital? Why do soldiers want to kill me? Who was the woman assassin who killed the nurse? Who is the guy helping me and why? Who is the fire guy? Why are the soldiers too stupid to fight fire with water? Who is the horse riding cowboy getting me away from the fire guy? Is this confusion intentional, or are all these plot holes covered by the other parts of the game?
Give it sometime, and you may or may not understand everything
Messaggio originale di Joseph:
Why am I in hospital? Why do soldiers want to kill me? Who was the woman assassin who killed the nurse? Who is the guy helping me and why? Who is the fire guy? Why are the soldiers too stupid to fight fire with water? Who is the horse riding cowboy getting me away from the fire guy? Is this confusion intentional, or are all these plot holes covered by the other parts of the game?

• you in hospital because you were in a coma.
• soldiers want to kill you ordered by your enemy.
• the woman assassin was there to kill you, ordered by your enemy.
• the guy helping you is one of the guards that stationed there to protect you.
• the fire guy is a weaponized super soldier developed by your enemy.
• normally there are no water training for soldiers, only firearms and grenades.
• the cowboy is your aide, sent by someone who knows your past.

you are playing a game that is right in the middle of the whole series of story, those are not plot holes, those are the missing links that explains every plot holes in previous metal gear games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngySxUOj-VI

tldr :
1-5 are mainly Big Boss Story
1. the boss mentored a soldier, the soldier became big boss (MGS3:SE)
2. big boss sent to destroy enemy (MGS:PO)
3. big boss make base for soldier (MGS:PW)
4. base got rekt, big boss coma (MGS:GZ)
5. big boss wake up from coma (MGS:TPP)

6-10 are mainly big boss clone story
6. big boss clone (solid snake) vs big boss double - MG1
7. solid snake vs big boss - MG2
8. solid snake vs big boss clone2 (liquid snake) - MGS1
9. raiden vs big boss clone3 (solidus snake) - MGS2
10. solid snake vs liquid snake clone (liquid ocelot) - MGS4

11. raiden story, possibly spin off or planned new story. - MGS:R

PS: im only playing MGSV, so i'm not entirely correct. it is up to you to investigate further.
Ultima modifica da <blank>; 12 ago 2018, ore 9:05
Messaggio originale di Joseph:
Is this confusion intentional, or are all these plot holes covered by the other parts of the game?

I don't understand how can someone start with game number 5 (and there is more MGS titles anyway) and be surprised that not everything is clear, especially in prologue.
Nanomachines, son.
Messaggio originale di Kalsu:
You will get the gist of it as you complete the game but if you really need to be up to speed you will need to follow MGS3 and Peacewalker's story at least. You can get them on youtube.

edit : play ground zero or get the story at least.
MGS3 > Portable Ops > Peace Walker > Ground Zeroes and then The Phantom Pain.
I think it's that.
Messaggio originale di Kalsu:
You will get the gist of it as you complete the game but if you really need to be up to speed you will need to follow MGS3 and Peacewalker's story at least. You can get them on youtube.

edit : play ground zero or get the story at least.
MGS3 > Portable Ops > Peace Walker > Ground Zeroes and then The Phantom Pain.
I think it's that.

Portable ops is semi canon. That's why i didn't include it.
Messaggio originale di Kalsu:
MGS3 > Portable Ops > Peace Walker > Ground Zeroes and then The Phantom Pain.
I think it's that.

Portable ops is semi canon. That's why i didn't include it.
Still a canon.
You skipped its prologue, MGSV: Ground Zeroes. meaning you should have bought the Definitive Experience which is the same price as just MGSV: TPP and you would get the two and would understand the story.
Ultima modifica da R!SK; 12 ago 2018, ore 14:04
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