Overrated game

[ObsessedEddie]

Unfinished story, inconsistent story, tedious micro management for base, Quiet has more emotion than Snake, re-using areas of the maps with illogical quests, Kojima credits showing up non-stop, infested with side quests that cheapen the drive to find an overall ending/truth, overpowered main character/kit, poor ai movement in combat, political undertones.

[~⁧⁧kapacb]

"Are you hurt? Try a little harder next time..." - Kaz

Rank - F (for fk horrible work)

[Lar Dass]

Lmao kapacb

[R!SK]

Glad you shared your opinion. Even if I don't agree with it.

[ObsessedEddie]

Originally posted by kapacb:

"Are you hurt? Try a little harder next time..." - Kaz

Rank - F (for fk horrible work)

Can you explain why you disagree?

[ObsessedEddie]

Originally posted by R!SK:

Glad you shared your opinion. Even if I don't agree with it.

What do you disagree with?

[SE[7]EN]

you are right my man
this game had the potensial to be one of the best game of all times along with somethign like witcher 3
but kojima and konami both f**** it up

[Abdu]

The game needed at least SIX months of extra development.

[dprog1995]

Originally posted by Abdu:

The game needed at least SIX months of extra development.

6 months wouldn't fix it.

They would just spend that time on:
-Fixing some bugs that appeared in the retail version.
-They would put the MGS V's Japan development team on charge of MGO 3 since MGO 3 was in huge trouble.(Even they knew that well enough which is why they delayed that multiplayer mode for 1 month)
-They might have also added some FOBs stuff that they added in the updates.

At best MGO 3 would be better and the game wouldn't have that Quiet bug.Other than that there would be no other differences.

Because in the last months of development the main focus is always on polishing the product rather than adding stuff to it.(And the game already missed it's February 2015 release date)

[~⁧⁧kapacb]

Originally posted by ObsessedEddie:

Can you explain why you disagree?

1) Putting it here. I would understand if it was in store section (which would not make it any better but at least it would make sense), but here.... So, you should ve been prepared that ppl here more or less familiar with mgs series, and probably know this game much more then you, which makes review pointless

2) Subjective things. Some on the list, but most importantly subjective your conclusion - "overrated". Because for me its the probably the best from series, for others it will be mgs3, for anothers mgs pw.
Personally i fk hate when ppl say subjective things like its all-knowing fact, making them self clever and everyone with opposite opinion dumb. In other words, lacking "imho" at the beginning or end.

3) I always thought that when you point at something objective you should prove you point with example, otherwise it could turn into subjective argument

4) Point of micro managment is really confusing for a few reasons:
1.Miller does this managment pretty good, so nobody force you to do it.
2.Game was made by Japanese devs, so its automatically includes tideous grinde (for example Shin Megami Tensei Persona series) or includes "wierd" stuff (like in other parts of mgs) or juvenile elements/perverted stuff (again other mgs or ragnarok or bayonetta, or vanquish, or god hand etc)

5) Overpowered MC.
Well at some extent in any game MC is overpowered, maybe except for fighting games.

6) You dont need to complete every side quest to achieve true ending, so its simply liying or i misunderstood your words.

7) Political stuff. Its espionage game, ofcourse it has political things. Splinter Cell has same thing... (Why this point even exist...)

8) About unfinished story. Its very questionable topic. In my opinion game put pretty clear end to the story, leaving player with a bitter feeling of unclearing everything (but should it?) and space for own thoughts. I know that there is a video of Eli's fate or Chico(which gladly died imo) in artbook but those thigs dont make game incomplete, but in reality game nullifies their meaning, since game is canon and whats not happened ingame simply doesnt exist in the universe of this game.

9) Venom... You probably wont believe but you suppose to look at his expression and not listening what he is saying, because you know.. he doesnt tell much for a reason. (Although modern days, ppl need text/vocal explanation maybe even help of an adult to complete a game..)

10) I could go on, but this will be the last one. You didnt add any positive point. Which leaves with two possibilities:
1.you didnt saw any, which make what you heard, saw and expressed here very questionable
2.you decide not to mention them, which retarded because rating creates by judging good and bad stuff, continue to judge only bad sides and you will continue to get "overrated" conclusion (because if you exclude every positive aspect there will be only bad)

Personally i see it as a bad try to force your view which you think totaly objective and right(because everyone wants to be right), when in reality it totally opposite (i think so because game released in 2015, you are 5 years late for review, so its more like a statement)

[ObsessedEddie]

Originally posted by kapacb:

Originally posted by ObsessedEddie:

Can you explain why you disagree?

1) Putting it here. I would understand if it was in store section (which would not make it any better but at least it would make sense), but here.... So, you should ve been prepared that ppl here more or less familiar with mgs series, and probably know this game much more then you, which makes review pointless

2) Subjective things. Some on the list, but most importantly subjective your conclusion - "overrated". Because for me its the probably the best from series, for others it will be mgs3, for anothers mgs pw.
Personally i fk hate when ppl say subjective things like its all-knowing fact, making them self clever and everyone with opposite opinion dumb. In other words, lacking "imho" at the beginning or end.

3) I always thought that when you point at something objective you should prove you point with example, otherwise it could turn into subjective argument

4) Point of micro managment is really confusing for a few reasons:
1.Miller does this managment pretty good, so nobody force you to do it.
2.Game was made by Japanese devs, so its automatically includes tideous grinde (for example Shin Megami Tensei Persona series) or includes "wierd" stuff (like in other parts of mgs) or juvenile elements/perverted stuff (again other mgs or ragnarok or bayonetta, or vanquish, or god hand etc)

5) Overpowered MC.
Well at some extent in any game MC is overpowered, maybe except for fighting games.

6) You dont need to complete every side quest to achieve true ending, so its simply liying or i misunderstood your words.

7) Political stuff. Its espionage game, ofcourse it has political things. Splinter Cell has same thing... (Why this point even exist...)

8) About unfinished story. Its very questionable topic. In my opinion game put pretty clear end to the story, leaving player with a bitter feeling of unclearing everything (but should it?) and space for own thoughts. I know that there is a video of Eli's fate or Chico(which gladly died imo) in artbook but those thigs dont make game incomplete, but in reality game nullifies their meaning, since game is canon and whats not happened ingame simply doesnt exist in the universe of this game.

9) Venom... You probably wont believe but you suppose to look at his expression and not listening what he is saying, because you know.. he doesnt tell much for a reason. (Although modern days, ppl need text/vocal explanation maybe even help of an adult to complete a game..)

10) I could go on, but this will be the last one. You didnt add any positive point. Which leaves with two possibilities:
1.you didnt saw any, which make what you heard, saw and expressed here very questionable
2.you decide not to mention them, which retarded because rating creates by judging good and bad stuff, continue to judge only bad sides and you will continue to get "overrated" conclusion (because if you exclude every positive aspect there will be only bad)

Personally i see it as a bad try to force your view which you think totaly objective and right(because everyone wants to be right), when in reality it totally opposite (i think so because game released in 2015, you are 5 years late for review, so its more like a statement)

lol its all opinion, dont act so high up on ur horse u kojima fanboy. anything of actual substance that u said was in agreement lol

[ObsessedEddie]

be more like Abdu, this game is his most played and he understands its overrated

[DR. JOHN DEJAVU 1984]

Originally posted by ObsessedEddie:

Unfinished story, inconsistent story, tedious micro management for base, Quiet has more emotion than Snake, re-using areas of the maps with illogical quests, Kojima credits showing up non-stop, infested with side quests that cheapen the drive to find an overall ending/truth, overpowered main character/kit, poor ai movement in combat, political undertones.

Well if you don't like it- move on!

This is the last real metal gear game after all

[ObsessedEddie]

Originally posted by Revolver Ocelot:

Originally posted by ObsessedEddie:

Unfinished story, inconsistent story, tedious micro management for base, Quiet has more emotion than Snake, re-using areas of the maps with illogical quests, Kojima credits showing up non-stop, infested with side quests that cheapen the drive to find an overall ending/truth, overpowered main character/kit, poor ai movement in combat, political undertones.

Well if you don't like it- move on!

This is the last real metal gear game after all

Nope your wrong, i did enjoy the 35 hours i put into it. Just saying its overrated and im wondering how many others agree

[DR. JOHN DEJAVU 1984]

Originally posted by ObsessedEddie:

Originally posted by Revolver Ocelot:

Well if you don't like it- move on!

This is the last real metal gear game after all

Nope your wrong, i did enjoy the 35 hours i put into it. Just saying its overrated and im wondering how many others agree

Upon reading your claim, you say constant things about the gameplay.
Now this is very common for most- metal gear solid players. It's that the gameplay gets repetitive and that's the problem: "You think the game is based on stats and getting things done" rather to "How else can I handle a scenario- and what can I do to do better or enjoy this more?" challenges and such.

If you want linear gameplay: play all the other Metal Gear Solid games, as far as I know, they too are pretty linear. MGS2 has it's back and forths, and I don't even think MGS3, has you back track unless you screwed up but hey: those metal gear games are for you.


MGSV is to break the balance and allow freeplay, you've got a capture cage, yet, you don't even use it! Try using some items you never heard of. Look up tactics, find something to squeeze the real juice and gameplay out of this game. It's not as linear and stupid as you think. AI may be a little stupid, but it's actually better in Missions, in freeplay it's one-way AI.

Plus you can extend the gameplay with mods! Infinite Heaven as one of my personal favorites extends the challenge of gameplay and appeal.

[Black Hole]

I found it boring, was more like a farming simulator.

I liked metal gear 4 way more.