METAL GEAR SOLID V: THE PHANTOM PAIN

METAL GEAR SOLID V: THE PHANTOM PAIN

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GuyOnAChair 2017 年 2 月 1 日 下午 4:45
Anyone ever play MGO or MPO/MPO+ Multiplayer.
Aka the only reason MPO/MPO+ are relevant still.
最後修改者:GuyOnAChair; 2017 年 2 月 2 日 下午 12:21
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Snowskeeper 2017 年 2 月 1 日 下午 5:21 
Maybe.
Lethal Placebo 2017 年 2 月 1 日 下午 8:13 
I haven't done a full playthrough of Portable Ops in years, but I still think it's a decent game with some control issues.
MatthewKai 2017 年 2 月 1 日 下午 10:41 
the servers got shutdown last i tried to play it
TheOrangeBox 2017 年 2 月 2 日 上午 1:38 
Fun games to play and plenty of actions - a must play
GuyOnAChair 2017 年 2 月 2 日 上午 11:48 
引用自 Lethal Placebo
I haven't done a full playthrough of Portable Ops in years, but I still think it's a decent game with some control issues.
PPSSPP or a Vita eliminates those issues. Any issues past the camera and a second stick are also faults in MGS 3 control wise.
Seamus 2017 年 2 月 2 日 上午 11:52 
引用自 GuyOnAChair
引用自 Lethal Placebo
I haven't done a full playthrough of Portable Ops in years, but I still think it's a decent game with some control issues.
PPSSPP or a Vita eliminates those issues. Any issues past the camera and a second stick are also faults in MGS 3 control wise.
Except the camera issues for MGS3 were fixed entirely in the Subsistence version of MGS3. No one plays Snake Eater. It's garbage.
GuyOnAChair 2017 年 2 月 2 日 上午 11:56 
引用自 Seamus
引用自 GuyOnAChair
PPSSPP or a Vita eliminates those issues. Any issues past the camera and a second stick are also faults in MGS 3 control wise.
Except the camera issues for MGS3 were fixed entirely in the Subsistence version of MGS3. No one plays Snake Eater. It's garbage.
What I said totally flew over your head. "Any issues past the camera and a second stick are also faults in MGS 3 control wise." That's reffering to the actual movement being the issue for people who can't handle MGS 3. Subsistance added the free camera we all know that. Portable Ops/ Portable Ops Plus has subistances camera and they came out after Subsistance and run on what's dubbed the Subsistance engine so anyone could infer that.

Seamus 2017 年 2 月 2 日 上午 11:57 
引用自 GuyOnAChair
引用自 Seamus
Except the camera issues for MGS3 were fixed entirely in the Subsistence version of MGS3. No one plays Snake Eater. It's garbage.
What I said totally flew over your head. "Any issues past the camera and a second stick are also faults in MGS 3 control wise." That's reffering to the actual movement being the issue for people who can't handle MGS 3. Subsistance added the free camera we all know that. Portable Ops/ Portable Ops Plus has subistances camera and they came out after Subsistance and run on what's dubbed the Subsistance engine so anyone could infer that.
Eh, I'm just biased against portable ops. It's not very good, isn't canon, and tries to retcon a bunch of ♥♥♥♥ in REALLY bad ways.
GuyOnAChair 2017 年 2 月 2 日 上午 11:59 
引用自 Seamus
引用自 GuyOnAChair
What I said totally flew over your head. "Any issues past the camera and a second stick are also faults in MGS 3 control wise." That's reffering to the actual movement being the issue for people who can't handle MGS 3. Subsistance added the free camera we all know that. Portable Ops/ Portable Ops Plus has subistances camera and they came out after Subsistance and run on what's dubbed the Subsistance engine so anyone could infer that.
Eh, I'm just biased against portable ops. It's not very good, isn't canon, and tries to retcon a bunch of ♥♥♥♥ in REALLY bad ways.
I could tell you were japing. Portable Ops has a rubbish story and isn't canon but that's not why it endures. The gameplay is great and the graphics for a portable were superb putting some PS2 game's character models to shame. The multiplayer was what the topic was about but maybe I should have specified that part. Also aren't you and RE modder?
Seamus 2017 年 2 月 2 日 下午 12:01 
引用自 GuyOnAChair
引用自 Seamus
Eh, I'm just biased against portable ops. It's not very good, isn't canon, and tries to retcon a bunch of ♥♥♥♥ in REALLY bad ways.
I could tell you were japing. Portable Ops has a rubbish story and isn't canon but that's not why it endures. The gameplay is great and the graphics for a portable were superb putting some PS2 game's character models to shame. The multiplayer was what the topic was about but maybe I should have specified that part. Also aren't you and RE modder?
I don't do anything gameplay wise for modding. All I did was replace venom with big boss to get rid of the horn and bionic arm visually.
As for MPO, imo it's beaten on literally every level by Peace Walker. Then again, imo so is TPP...
GuyOnAChair 2017 年 2 月 2 日 下午 12:12 
Story and level design (for SP) trumps MPO in everyway. It has a better asthetic even though the poly count for models has been lowered and has COOP which is always nice. It also improves and streamlines how soldiers are recruited because most people didn't realize you are supossed to have a squad to get soldiers faster.

However as an MGO PW Versus is awful and some of these reasons even stem from PW's core gameplay. It's best maps are ported from Portable Ops/Portable Ops Plus and it lacking in content. Here are other things PW does wrong.
-Recruited soliders appearnces don't differ ingame. Even if you play as Kojima he will look like any other recruit.
-Bad AI. Portable Ops was too difficult and to compensate for the lack of second analog PW made the AI far more simple. In the later re release in the HD Collection they weren't rebalanced as as such are no fun to sneak or shoot because of how easy they are. The MGS1 genome soldiers might be more capable.
-Bodies disappear meaning other than not have another potential recruit non lethal players aren't penalized and sneaking is even easier. Soldiers don't even care if a soldier screams in pain before dying.It's actually possible to be killed by a solider in MPO where as in PW only DSP could be killed by a basic grunt.
-WAY too basic/streamlined interactions. Because bodies disappear they removed dragging bodies. Fair enough. But besides that, crawling and moving while pressed against a wall were removed. In both PW and MPO/MPO+ you can move while shooting but PW is thirdperson so "oh it's so much better 10/10". It's weird how PW has camo index and is a game that mostly takes place in detailed jungles but it doesn't have crawling which actually make using said camo matter.
-Useless carryovers. Portable Ops/Portable Ops Plus has this awful stamina bar that really should have been used online like in MGO1 to prevent camping ( MPO/MPO+ don't have a camping issue but I am reffering to how in MGO1 you needed food to survive longer play sessions.) In PW the stamina bar is usless other than versus which isn't saying much.

There are more things to list but I assume they would be nitpicking.
最後修改者:GuyOnAChair; 2017 年 2 月 2 日 下午 12:22
Seamus 2017 年 2 月 2 日 下午 1:59 
I disagree for the most part, but that's the nice thing about opinions, they don't have to mesh.
GuyOnAChair 2017 年 2 月 2 日 下午 2:30 
引用自 Seamus
I disagree for the most part, but that's the nice thing about opinions, they don't have to mesh.
I posted 2 hours ago. You saying you disagree proves you didn't read it.

And in case you had some issues reading it again: "Story and level design (for SP) trumps MPO in everyway. It has a better asthetic even though the poly count for models has been lowered and has COOP which is always nice. It also improves and streamlines how soldiers are recruited because most people didn't realize you are supossed to have a squad to get soldiers faster." I said PW is better but there are things which MPO does better.
最後修改者:GuyOnAChair; 2017 年 2 月 2 日 下午 2:31
Seamus 2017 年 2 月 2 日 下午 2:31 
引用自 GuyOnAChair
引用自 Seamus
I disagree for the most part, but that's the nice thing about opinions, they don't have to mesh.
I posted 2 hours ago. You saying you disagree proves you didn't read it.
Or, y'know, I could have been off doing something and only read it half an hour ago. Funny how real life is a thing, isn't it?
GuyOnAChair 2017 年 2 月 2 日 下午 2:31 
引用自 Seamus
引用自 GuyOnAChair
I posted 2 hours ago. You saying you disagree proves you didn't read it.
Or, y'know, I could have been off doing something and only read it half an hour ago. Funny how real life is a thing, isn't it?
So it took you an 2 hours to write down something that proved you didn't read it? Good to know.
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