How do you guys build so fast?!

[SeedOfEvil]

Every other time i play with humans, they're able to build their nations super fast. they get up to to gunpwder age with a good sized army while im still stuck back in the classicle age. no matter how i try to allocate my citizens and resources i cant figure out how to do it. they have 4 cities, i only have two. how are they building so fast with no resource boost while im scraping by. waiting and waiting for my resources to grow so i can research things..

[SeedOfEvil]

Classical*

[Beszedits]

what kind of question is that? there's no cheat allowed in multiplayer.
SO the answer is: they know how to play and you don't. Learn the game and you will be able to follow.

[Beszedits]

if I were you, I would start by watching recorded games. You can find them in the multiplayer section. Watch how pros play, what they do. And you will learn quicker.

[SeedOfEvil]

gee, thanks genius for the insight. i know how to play. ive been playing for years. but no one gets good just from trying. id like some actual advice. watching does nothing. ive tried that. still cant figure it out. if they had a spoken play by play of their actions i could

[SeedOfEvil]

i dont know why people are always avoiding telling me how they do what they do

[Beszedits]

Man, it's not ONE thing we do.. this game is too complex. How do you think we got good at it? By studying the game. Testing possibilities, and most of all: playing a lot online with HUMANS.

And you are not good as you say, considering what you originally posted. To know how to move units around and how to click a button doesn't mean you know how this game works.

[Beszedits]

It's funny how people want to achieve something in their lives by just pressing a magic button. That's why so many people spend their time in fake and quick diets instead of working hard at the gym.

You want to get good? Study, practice, study, practice, test your skills online, study, practice more.
That's it.

[SeedOfEvil]

i know its not one thing. that would be stupid. but moving troops, crap like that i dont need help with. what i cant figure out is how they build their economy so fast. i try to build it as fast but always hit the commerce cap and have to wait a while for the resouces to continues doing anything. how are they allocating their resources to be efficient enough to build fast. thats what im asking.

[SeedOfEvil]

ive tried sacrificing my nation in other catagories like focusing only on a few reasearch upgrades and not all but i still always find myself without enough resources

[Beszedits]

Well, like I said, since this game is too complex, there's always MANY ways to get to the same place. And it also depends on which nation you are playing. For example, the germans are the best boom nation. They can build granaries, lumber mill and smelters with less science research (other nations can build granary and lumber mill only after 2 science researches, and smelter after 3 sci researches).

Let's see...
- GRANARY gives you +20% boost for all farms in that city (from +10 Food to +12 Food income per farm)
The economic upgrades (left icon) at the granary boosts food output even further, as follows:
1st upgrade: +50% overall food output ~ farm (+12F to +15F per farm) / fish (+10F to +15F per fish)
2nd upgrade: +100% overall food output ~ +20F (per farm/fish)
3rd upgrade: +200% overall food output ~ +30F (per farm/fish)


Am i helping? Is this the kind of thing you wanna know?
Or you already know these things?

[SeedOfEvil]

yeah. of course. and i always take advantage with stuff like that. but no matter what i do, im always hitting commerce cap and have to wait forever before i can either break the cap or reasearch new stuff. and i cant do both at the same time.

[Beszedits]

When it comes to battle mechanics and micro management, knowing how to control your army the right way is the biggest challenge in RoN and it defines who wins and who loses, since it does not matter how many resources you have if you waste them in stupid battles. I've seen players with more than 5.000 games played (in gamespy days) that still didn't know how to fight the right way. So, that comes with practice... a lot of practice.

[Beszedits]

Also, if you want to be able to do MANY tasks at the same time, you have to use your hotkeys. You can customize them in the options menu. They help a lot.
The hotkey I use the most is TAB, which quickly scroll through buildings that have available research. That way, you don't spend precious time looking for you temple to research taxation, for example.

[Beszedits]

Another good tip: since, after the classical age column, all researches (except mil2 and civic 2) require knowledge, it is the most important resource in the game.

To boost your knowledge, you need to find Rare Resources that give it to you, like gems, whool, relics, etc. Of course you have to build scholars, 'im sure you know that. Plus, every time you research a science technology from the next column, you become able to research a technology in the university.
For example: if you are in the Medieval Age, and research Science 3 (which is from the Gunpowder Column), you can now research Literacy at the university. Literacy gives each scholar a +7 knowledge income (instead of the standard +5 knowledge that you start the game with). Which means every full university (with all 7 scholars) will now give you +49 knowledge, and not +35.

Also, building the Hanging Gardens gives you +50 knowledge income right after you complete it. So, it's a good wonder if you want to boom fast and advance fast through ages.

[Stevepunk]

When someone beats you, watch the replay from their perspective.

You will learn many things