Community Balance Patch

[MHLoppy]

Hi all

I've been spearheading development of a patch to improve RoN:EE's game balance (especially at high-level play) and integrate bug fixes. The patch's Workshop page is here: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2287791153

The biggest balance change is actually a workaround for a bug that affects almost all units in the Extended Edition of the game. This bug was not present in Thrones & Patriots, and has had a significant and unintended effect on the balance of many units. An example of a few of the differences are shown in a video on the Workshop page linked above, and a more exhaustive list is available in the spreadsheet also linked on that page.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-QPN_kMrA4

CBP is currently in Alpha, meaning it's early in the development process. As we move into Beta, we're trying to reach out to even more players to ensure that we really are creating a Community Balance Patch with thoughtful discussion over what changes should be made. Rise of Patience recently streamed a few games using the patch, and as you can see, the game still feels familiar to veteran players, and is not a whole different game which you'll need to completely re-learn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=555&v=rQ24TIpiCb0

If you have any balance feedback we currently have a thread for that here but if you'd prefer you can also post here, or on the RoN community Discord[discordapp.com].

I believe that together we can make a great game even better.

[Squid]

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[NITES2K]

This is amazing work!! Thanks!

Any possibility of fixing the map positions or AI?

[MHLoppy]

Originally posted by NITES2K:

Any possibility of fixing the map positions or AI?

It depends on what exactly you were looking for on these points, but unfortunately it's unlikely those can be addressed much with just mods. It's one of the major challenges the project faces: my hands are often tied in terms of the scope of what I can change :(

[fornold]

Will this fix the issue of not being about to play Bonus Cards? That is driving me nuts and I can't find a work around.

[MHLoppy]

Originally posted by fornold:

Will this fix the issue of not being about to play Bonus Cards? That is driving me nuts and I can't find a work around.

That's more the scope of Misc Fixes (which CBP integrates), but I can address it here I suppose.

I'm not familiar with the bug you've mentioned. I looked through the posts where you've mentioned it, but the most useful documentation there (someone's youtube video) is no longer available. If you can provide new documentation of the bug with complete context about the circumstances in which it fails (does it always fail in all scenarios in all campaigns for you? only specific campaigns? etc) I can look into it.

[fornold]

Thanks for the consideration. The issue is the game never prompts to select the cards to use. It happens to me for any scenario I have tried. I know there are some where you don't have the option. I played RON a lot when it originally came out so I'm familiar with the mechanics.

I understand if this is something that beyond what you doing, but I thought it was worth asking about.

[fornold]

Well, I had a little time to mess around this evening and I decided to play with the windows compatibility settings for running the game. As it turns out, if I set it to Windows 7 the bonus cards work just fine. Should have tried that sooner.

[MHLoppy]

Originally posted by fornold:

Well, I had a little time to mess around this evening and I decided to play with the windows compatibility settings for running the game. As it turns out, if I set it to Windows 7 the bonus cards work just fine. Should have tried that sooner.

The fact that a small part of the game fails (when the rest runs fine) because of the compatibility issue is pretty crazy! Glad you found a fix though.

[NITES2K]

Originally posted by MHLoppy:

Originally posted by NITES2K:

Any possibility of fixing the map positions or AI?

It depends on what exactly you were looking for on these points, but unfortunately it's unlikely those can be addressed much with just mods. It's one of the major challenges the project faces: my hands are often tied in terms of the scope of what I can change :(

ahh thanks for your response. Yea I said that comment before realising there was a map editor. It kind of does what I am looking for but I guess in general the design of maps, especially for 4v4 is just horrid. The game is amazing but in my opinion the AI and map design is what kills this game. Now, I say that while I still play the game lol but man it disappoints me.