Resident Evil Revelations 2

Resident Evil Revelations 2

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JimmyT May 18, 2021 @ 7:22am
"I'm not good with kids"
Claire, the only character in the entire series at this point to have been seen even interacting with a child in any way, is suddenly "not good with kids" in Rev 2. I dunno, she seemed pretty ♥♥♥♥♥♥ okay at it in RE 2. Is it really that hard to not contradict games that only have like 5 minutes of dialogue? The writers of this series are just jerking off.
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HelenaEX2 May 18, 2021 @ 3:33pm 
Well people is not the same after years (and if im not wrong on RE REV 2 are about 8-10 years after RC and claire is more "old") RE REV 2 define claire as someone of "buisness" thats why she dresses so "formal" and not like RC where she was more different.

Is like say "Why Chris is so selfish and idiot on RE6 that leave his team to die just to get revenge when RE1, RECV, RE5 he always try to save everyone". The character change with the time. Even on the E-mail from Piers to Claire they mention about Claire is "different" that what they expected for all the stories Chris told them to the team so theres another change on Claire behaviour. We can say she is more "tired". Again not all the people remain the same with the pass of the time.

In the same episode at the end she just watch gave to die. If Claire was the exact same person from RE2 she could say something like "She is gonna pay for that" but basically for Claire those are their "occupational risks" and she is already get use to see they partners die in one or other way. Except the more closers (Episode 3 and 4 explain that in case you didnt reach that part and you dont want spoilers).
JimmyT May 18, 2021 @ 8:15pm 
Originally posted by HelenaEX2:
Well people is not the same after years

Do women typically get less good with kids as they age? Why would 18 year old biker chick Claire be better with kids than "mature" Claire?

I do agree that this game makes Claire more "business" oriented, but it'd be more accurate to say that this Claire is basically a completely different character, and a less likeable one at that, just like they did with Chris in RE5. Any kind of personality these characters were hinted to have in the classics have been wiped out and replaced with generic garbage. Except Barry, he's allowed to be the same character for some reason. His segments are the only good parts of this game because of that.
HelenaEX2 May 18, 2021 @ 9:48pm 
Originally posted by DT Scurvy:
Originally posted by HelenaEX2:
Well people is not the same after years

Do women typically get less good with kids as they age? Why would 18 year old biker chick Claire be better with kids than "mature" Claire?
Except Barry, he's allowed to be the same character for some reason. His segments are the only good parts of this game because of that.
Actually you already give the answer...

Claire has been trating with important and adult people for years, Claire and Chris does not had any childs, Barry has two and on of them got hurt. Barry is all the time with his family (secret archive 5) Barry work in home like "consultant" so he basically went to the battle field after years only for Moira. (My real question is why the BSAA took 6 months on search and clean the island?)

Claire and Moira on secret archive 1 mention Chris and Claire see Barry like their mentor, but never mention about that on Moira and Claire, the makes clear they are friends, but Claire isnt the mentor of Moira. .

Basically Barry become father again with Chris and Claire we can say that reforced his same "essence".

Unlike Chris and Claire they basically are all the time on the warzone (Same as Jill).

When Claire was young she was less... objective on certain aspects. I mean, after save Sherry she just say to Leon "Well i had stuff to do, take Sherry to the city i will go to assault Umbrella on Europe now" (RE2 epilogue mentions somethins about this and how Claire just say to Sherry "I will back soon" when she dissapear on the distance). Idk but a woman who know how to treath with kids they know 100% they had to stay with the kid until this one is fine or at least save. Not leave him with someone who barely knows (Sherry meet Leon at the end, before that she only hear his voice) and go away to do your stuff and then search it back years laters (Resident evil 6 mention about Claire visiting Sherry a few times before Simmons "adopt" her).

Idk but say a little girl "Hey i know im the most closer people you had until now but i had to tell that you mother die, she say she loves you and i had to go to search my brother so here is Leon to take care you, bye!" is not the way to treat a kid. She knows how to protect a kid but not how to treat them

On RE:Degeneration we can saw Claire again protecting a kid and far as i remember RE:Degeneration happend after CV and before RE4 so this is why she still has his protective side on kids, as much i belive just happend 2 or 3 years after RC, on RE:Degeneration. Lets remember from RC are about 8-10 years.

Chris and Claire lost their parents so this opens a window to say "Well and this is the reasson why they know or they dont know how to treat with kids" and basically by claire behaviour is a neutral point. She know how to keep them alive and protect them even if that means risk his life, but be a mentor, a "mother2 figure not. Sherry and Moira are prove about that. Sherry says she learn from Claire to never give up no matter the odds and also mention Leon and Claire are the best friends she has and thats why she tries to follow their steps. Same as Moira joining into TerraSave being influenced by Claire but none of them look Claire as a mentor/mother or how ever you want to call it. They call him friend.

But the story of this revelations is 100% better argumented, bc RE2R has a lot of holes on the story and if we talk about contradict RE3R is a dialogue contradict every 2 words. Only on the begining Brad says not know what is happening but theres a monster hunting the STARS, a few files later Nicholai mention nemesis was never focus on Brad, the main target was "JV".

And about Barry campaing... Idk, i didnt enjoy enough bc basically is use assault rifle and knife, the enemies he face are really weak, Claire and Moira was more fun for me on how challenging their campaing are on the highes difficulty something Barry dosent had, is an excess how many smoke bombs he can create per chapter and how OP this bombs are to avoid or instakill the enemies. And the only "challenging" boss i found with Barry was Alex 2nd stage, the first one is easy to kill bc if you had assault rifle ammo you can kill her in seconds without getting damage. If you had magnum ammo is even more easy.
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Villain May 18, 2021 @ 11:51pm 
that wasn't the only issue. she doesn't even look like or act like Claire from the previous game. she a completely different character in this game. even her voice is all wrong. 
HelenaEX2 May 19, 2021 @ 12:11am 
Originally posted by Villain:
that wasn't the only issue. she doesn't even look like or act like Claire from the previous game. she a completely different character in this game. even her voice is all wrong.
What previous game? The one where she was 19? Code veronica? bc first of all RE2R is from 2019 Revelations 2 is from 2015-2016 and before revelations 2 Claire only showed up on Resident evil the mercenaries 3d with his Code Veronica appareance and CV i belive is from 2000. And code veronica is the "previous" game she appear before revelations 2.

Btw all RC and "previous" games where she was on a RE:game she had 19 years old (Resident evil the mercenaries 3D character data) . Revelations 2 is on 2011 and all the previous games she appear was back in 1998, and revelations 2 is 13 years later. What it means Claire is now 42 years old so is normal she changed so much.
Lanzagranadas May 19, 2021 @ 4:29pm 
Well, she didn't exactly have an easy time (at least in the original RE2) dealing with Sherry and convincing her to stick together at first, maybe it's a refference to that. In one of the scenarios she even has to stop Sherry by force to stop her from running away again.

But yeah, probably not the best choice of words. Or maybe it's a mistranslation.
HelenaEX2 May 20, 2021 @ 2:40pm 
Originally posted by Lanzagranadas:
Well, she didn't exactly have an easy time (at least in the original RE2) dealing with Sherry and convincing her to stick together at first, maybe it's a refference to that. In one of the scenarios she even has to stop Sherry by force to stop her from running away again.

But yeah, probably not the best choice of words. Or maybe it's a mistranslation.
Yeah, i tougth i was the only one who belive Claire wasnt careful enough with Sherry on RE2. Sherry was really independent on RE2.

But Claire from RE2R knows how treat with kids, is more closer to sherry than his original part on RE2. Idk Claire abandone Sherry later like the original story or not.
James.Havoc May 23, 2021 @ 6:50am 
Originally posted by HelenaEX2:
Btw all RC and "previous" games where she was on a RE:game she had 19 years old (Resident evil the mercenaries 3D character data) . Revelations 2 is on 2011 and all the previous games she appear was back in 1998, and revelations 2 is 13 years later. What it means Claire is now 42 years old so is normal she changed so much.

In terms of games, there wasnt much for her to do between RECVX and REV2, thats true, but there was the CGI movie RE Degeneration, which is canon, takes place in 2005 and shows Claire again saving the child. And she is not as "grumpy" as in REV2. The thing, that did swap over to REV2 is her poor choice when it comes to love interests. They either die or betray her.
And from all I've seen from the newest iteration in CGI Universe, it seems that she will be the same "lighthearted" persona in RE Infinite Darkness. Granted, that one is set in 2006, so Claire would have 5 years left to experience whatever makes her "REV2- Claire"...
HelenaEX2 May 23, 2021 @ 3:20pm 
Originally posted by James.Havoc:
Originally posted by HelenaEX2:
Btw all RC and "previous" games where she was on a RE:game she had 19 years old (Resident evil the mercenaries 3D character data) . Revelations 2 is on 2011 and all the previous games she appear was back in 1998, and revelations 2 is 13 years later. What it means Claire is now 42 years old so is normal she changed so much.

In terms of games, there wasnt much for her to do between RECVX and REV2, thats true, but there was the CGI movie RE Degeneration, which is canon, takes place in 2005 and shows Claire again saving the child. And she is not as "grumpy" as in REV2. The thing, that did swap over to REV2 is her poor choice when it comes to love interests. They either die or betray her.
And from all I've seen from the newest iteration in CGI Universe, it seems that she will be the same "lighthearted" persona in RE Infinite Darkness. Granted, that one is set in 2006, so Claire would have 5 years left to experience whatever makes her "REV2- Claire"...
Yeah but happend the same things as Sherry, she save him from a dangerous situation bc she wasnt paying attention to the girl. Something also happend with Sherry, Claire know how to keep them alive, how to protect them but that dosent mean she knows how to deal with a kid. Even on Degeneration she leaves the kid to go behind the pharmaceutical, Lets make a quick comparation with Barry. If you say "Yeah bc Claire didnt want to expouse the child into a dangerous situation" Barry didnt left natalia behind. And she also got hurt, but he never left her like Claire did on RE2 and RE:Degeneration. She is a life saver but not a babysiter. Only on RE2R i saw a very different Claire Redfield but we all know remakes arent cannon stories so we cant take their stories (starting with they are a mess up) as a reference.

His brother Chris lost teammates on their battlefield to give him his "heroic" title and for Claire they had to killl their "boyfriends" to make it "stronger" (something stupid if you ask me, bc Claire after RC she was different and more a "combat girl", i mean you escape from an outbreak to go on your own to raid an umbrella base that is clearly beyond the limits from any regular girl)

Not much to do between code veronica and re rev2. I mean she is the sister from one of the founders of the BSAA rigth? And both redfields figth against the bioweapons right? Why Chris Redfield has been on 3 games in a row (5 in a row if you want to close it into "lastest re games) , why for him theres tons of plans but for claire is not much to do on 13 years? Sorry i found this really ironic. The answer is simple. Same as Jill Valentine. Wasted potencial. We could say many things on how the RE Games could be different if they didnt do stupid things like give tons of effort to Chris Redfield, Just watch it know, capcom already get rid of all the characters on RE. Now is Chris redfield and his new partner who die at the end, Chris Redfield saving a random survivor. Chris redfield being an adoptive father. Capcom dosent care anymore about the rest of characters. But they could do so, but so much with Claire and other character than they did. (Even Rebecca was a wasted potential on the movie).
Apollo Jun 9, 2021 @ 5:03pm 
Originally posted by Lanzagranadas:
But yeah, probably not the best choice of words. Or maybe it's a mistranslation.
Revelations 2 has arguably the worst localization in the series, but that line is one that's accurate.

I just think the writers mischaracterized Claire and Barry in order to make the new characters shine, which is unfortunate. I don't see Barry, ex-military/police and a gun nut, leaving any firearm unattended and not in a safe with kids around either. I just pretend neither event really happens lol
HelenaEX2 Jun 9, 2021 @ 11:17pm 
Originally posted by Apollo:
Originally posted by Lanzagranadas:
But yeah, probably not the best choice of words. Or maybe it's a mistranslation.
Revelations 2 has arguably the worst localization in the series, but that line is one that's accurate.

I just think the writers mischaracterized Claire and Barry in order to make the new characters shine, which is unfortunate. I don't see Barry, ex-military/police and a gun nut, leaving any firearm unattended and not in a safe with kids around either. I just pretend neither event really happens lol
I agree on that. After this game all argument on the story is really bad, RE2R Claire and Leon are literally non existent stories on their own campaings. RE3R, every word Jill or Carlos say is a contradiction about what is happening on the game. My favorite Carlos saying "You save my life first" when Carlos is the one who is saving Jill on all the game.

RE7, Idk but if mia was a "secret" agent on the development of a new virus. Why she can go free? I mean on RE5 they want to catch Excella, RE6 they want to catch Carla and RE7 is like "Oh well Ethan take a normal life you and your secret agent wife, we are also going to give you military training to both of you, even if you wife already had it".

And RE8.... I found the mutilation "joke" really exploted. Ethan literally broke his hands, but nah, a little bit of water and done, lose his finger "Bah" Lose his hand "Oh ♥♥♥♥. Here we go again". At this point i wont be surprise if on the next game we found Ethan and the reasson why he is still alive is bc Chris went to drop tons of luquid medicione were he died and he revive.
Hypophobia Jun 11, 2021 @ 9:40am 
Originally posted by DT Scurvy:
Claire, the only character in the entire series at this point to have been seen even interacting with a child in any way, is suddenly "not good with kids" in Rev 2. I dunno, she seemed pretty ♥♥♥♥♥♥ okay at it in RE 2. Is it really that hard to not contradict games that only have like 5 minutes of dialogue? The writers of this series are just jerking off.
So true tho tf
Hypophobia Jun 11, 2021 @ 9:42am 
Originally posted by DT Scurvy:
Originally posted by HelenaEX2:
Well people is not the same after years

Do women typically get less good with kids as they age? Why would 18 year old biker chick Claire be better with kids than "mature" Claire?

I do agree that this game makes Claire more "business" oriented, but it'd be more accurate to say that this Claire is basically a completely different character, and a less likeable one at that, just like they did with Chris in RE5. Any kind of personality these characters were hinted to have in the classics have been wiped out and replaced with generic garbage. Except Barry, he's allowed to be the same character for some reason. His segments are the only good parts of this game because of that.
As you get older you start to neglect things more. but thats from me and idfk
HelenaEX2 Jun 11, 2021 @ 12:03pm 
Originally posted by MaiMai:
Originally posted by DT Scurvy:

Do women typically get less good with kids as they age? Why would 18 year old biker chick Claire be better with kids than "mature" Claire?

I do agree that this game makes Claire more "business" oriented, but it'd be more accurate to say that this Claire is basically a completely different character, and a less likeable one at that, just like they did with Chris in RE5. Any kind of personality these characters were hinted to have in the classics have been wiped out and replaced with generic garbage. Except Barry, he's allowed to be the same character for some reason. His segments are the only good parts of this game because of that.
As you get older you start to neglect things more. but thats from me and idfk
As i said before. Chris and Claire never had children, that could be a window to justify that. But the other are rigth too. Capcom is messing with the characters since this game and the rest that came out after this one (re2r the non sense re3r, etc)
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