Survival ranger hardcore too easy?

[fracture.]

Anyone else? I'm maxed in all ammo, I've got nearly 300 golden bullets (currency), all nades, knives, health pack and 15 minutes of gas filters (max). I can't even pick more ammo up, so there's a lot of ammo lying around on the map behind me.

Is hardcore ranger survival mode too easy? Granted, this is my 6th run through Metro 2033 and I know pretty much everything (except the new Redux areas of course), but still.

EDIT: Other than that, great work on the game devs, I'm REALLY enjoying! No problems with the game whatsoever. Thanks!

[Silverflame]

If you are too good for the game, shot away 2/3 of your ammo and pretend you lost it. Also, you will need every scrap of ammo on the final missions, at least it was that way in the original Metro 2033

[Nucloid]

Mhm, survival ranger hardcore was insanely easy. I beat 2033 Redux in 11 hours on Survival Ranger Hardcore. I've got quite a bit of experience though with both original Metro games on Ranger Hardcore mode.

[Chang]

Originally posted by fracture.:

Originally posted by Silverflame:

If you are too good for the game, shot away 2/3 of your ammo and pretend you lost it. Also, you will need every scrap of ammo on the final missions, at least it was that way in the original Metro 2033

Come on man, I was not trying to be elitistic here, why do you have to make it out so? I was just wondering if anyone else found it a bit easy or it's just me, that's all.

Yeah, it's easy, but at least it isn't cruise control, which I believe the other difficulties are.

[VAR]

Having experience with the game helps a lot. I was on my 3rd playthrough, and the only resource I was hurting for was filters, since I was hunting for new goodies on the surface, and I didnt buy any because
a) there was only 1 instance where you could buy filters in the original and considering theres never a reason to buy medkits and they're on the same page...well, lets just say I bought a bunch in POLIS
b) I though I would need to save up for armor when there was none :(

[MacAttack]

I don't think it's too "easy." But lets just say you aren't sweating while trying to play. Here is my 00.02. With many games now being multiplayer, you're going up against a human player, which in an FPS is harder than any AI could ever be (outside of insane aimbot for the AI).

I can say from experience that playing BF3 and 4 disciplines you beyond what the AI can achieve. I think as we begin to play more multiplayer games with other human players, single player experiences become easier, even on hard difficulties (for FPS's at least).

Of course this doesn't stop the game from giving you a hard time here and there. Take Abe's Oddysee, for example (if anyone remembers that old game). That game is probably the hardest game I have ever played. Forget about Dark Souls being hard. Descent 2 & 3 on "insane" difficulty is a close second.

Of course, this is all subjective. What one person finds hard, another may find it easy. We all have a play style that we like, some work better than others. At the end of the day, if you're having fun playing, then it doesn't really matter.

[KingCoward]

Originally posted by fracture.:

Granted, this is my 6th run through Metro 2033 and I know pretty much everything

No wonder its easy for you, most likely any game will be easy if you know everything and done 5 prior playthroughs.

[Eduardo]

Yeah, there is too much ammo in ranger modes. I always have to sell almost all my ammo in every station to make it feel more survival. But TBH, there was also too much ammo in original 2033, especially after they added those DLC guns (shotgun LMG and railgun), since selling them gave you a sh*tload of military grade bullets. It's great that you can only buy those in Redux, not just find them lying somewhere. So, when it comes to military grade bullets, I think that Ranger in Redux is well balanced, since I also like to upgrade my weapons. There is just enough ammo to make few of those small upgrades which leaves you with almost no military grade bullets left. But there is just too much "crap" bullets lying around. And I also think that there shouldn't be no random weapons lying on the ground in entire Ranger playthrough, so it would force you to actually buy weapons, not just wait few missions untill you get it for free.

[Glimp's PUB]

Atm it is too easy. From start on until dry station Im swimming in bullets.
Though I must admit i just skipped one "treasure" and use nonstop the knives ^^

Originally posted by SW MacAttack:

Take Abe's Oddysee, for example (if anyone remembers that old game). That game is probably the hardest game I have ever played. Forget about Dark Souls being hard. Descent 2 & 3 on "insane" difficulty is a close second.

This are hard games cause they are old and the gamers wanted a challenge. Nowadays people complain about games which have a extreme difficulty which is unfortunate. I really cant remember a release of a difficult shooter-game in the last 2-3 years expect some oldschool-shooter like "hard reset" or "the rise of the triad remake"

[the_lone_ran9er]

Nothing is is to easy for todays kids.

Anyway, you used to need to choose carefully what upgrades you bought. Now you just buy everything and have a bank roll left over.

[Koranis]

It's so easy I was convinced I was playing on spartan. I agree, there is definately to much ammo around. Every corpse has something on it, plus if you look around a bit you can find weapons that make the difference, like silenced SMGs early on or quad-barrelled shotguns with laser pointer. I mean, WTF. If you offer a SURVIVAL mode along with the Spartan one, then let it be really a survival experience and leave Michael Bay-toys to Spartan.

I'm wondering what self-imposed rules can I use to increase the challenge. I might try to avoid picking up any weapons so that I will be forced to buy everything...

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Well if they really removed the Suits u could pick later in the game, that is a huge chunk of change (Bullets) right there

[Dusty]

That's your opinion, and that's fine. I think the average player won't be able to get through. I think I'm on the Depot level (just finished Trolley Combat). While I won't say I've found survival ranger hardcore too difficult, I have had a few instances that were challenging. At the end of Dead City I ran out of shotgun shells. Probably because I wasted so many shooting at flying demons. Either way I was stuck for a while on that final battle, the demons killed me like 6 times. The fight with Khan on the Anomaly level was fairly challenging. I died 4 or 5 times there. I've found it mainly depends on what weapon you have in certain situations. The automatic shotgun can get you killed in rapid mutant combat because of the long reload time. I spent all my mgr's to buy a Hellbreath at the armory. I had to sell most of my supplies to buy it too. Screwed that up because I got the 210 needed, then it only cost 196 after trade in. I have no idea how many mgr I have at this point. Frontline wasn't bad, except I kept trying to do it without using any bullets. When I'd just shoot people and/or use grenades it wasn't a problem. I've found, like last light, the game is unbalanced. Humans are very easy to kill or knock out, mutants can be very hard. Anyway, from what I've seen of many players, they need a full mag just to get on target. Assuming they even get close. They have to make games to be suitable for millions of people. Across a massive age range and experience level. A game that may be easy for you might be hard for someone else and impossible for many others. If you find you have more than you need, then don't pick anything up. Try going through the whole game using only your knife. Try doing one of those "Ironman" playthroughs, where if you die it's game over. Find your own ways o make it interesting.

[MolCular]

One way to have harder gameplay-- don't use shotguns. Ammo is scarce- one bullet pick ups at corpses. On RHC survival mode, I've run out of ammo for Tihkar and bast*rd after Riga. (Even with stealth to save bullets for mutants) After two mutant encounters, I had no ammo. There are 5 in level before entering Market. Single stab melee and throwing knife mutants waiting for Market to open doors was....
Find secret area before entering Market Station. There's a 44.cal weapon with long barrel. I swapped out Bast*ard. Had 50 bullets in Market for money. Noticed price of weapons risen and amount for trades/sells are less. Bought a stock (40) for 44.cal and sold shotgun shells--I'm at Deadcity with 36 44.cal bullets and 30 steel balls. Mutunts take more damage than previous games. Watchers are weaker than nostises, but still fight up close and personal.

[Wabbajack]

Are you kidding me? I ran out on Spartan ranger hardcore of ammo before cursed station. Basically I am stuck and gonna re-play the whole on the easier difficulty. I have no idea how you guys find it easy. :O

[MacAttack]

Originally posted by Wabbajack:

Are you kidding me? I ran out on Spartan ranger hardcore of ammo before cursed station. Basically I am stuck and gonna re-play the whole on the easier difficulty. I have no idea how you guys find it easy. :O

Are you new to the Metro series? If so, when you're new at a game, it's always harder. I've been playing Metro since the original 2033. Now, or course, I don't play it all the time. But it's like riding a bike, you never forget how to play.

I still find Metro difficult, even after playing all the games in the series. I like to make up my own little challanges as I play. One time I attempted to use just the pistol, or just throwing knives. Most of the time, my challanges get me killed, but that's the fun part, seeing what I can get away with before dying.