Metro 2033 Redux

Metro 2033 Redux

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Maddog Sep 9, 2017 @ 10:05am
SPOILERS Why is "If it's hostile kill it" a bad ending.
Come on the dark ones are the tumour of the metro they are the reason NVDKh is in danger.
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Jig McGalliger Sep 9, 2017 @ 10:36am 
Then you missed the moral of the story. There are no "good" or "bad" endings. You reap what you sow. Force answers force, war breeds war, and death only brings death. To break this vicious circle one must do more than just act without any thought or doubt.

It’s not any more "evil" than, say… fire. It all depends on your point of view. Try to get a better understanding of things before you make your judgement.
Maddog Sep 9, 2017 @ 11:32am 
Originally posted by Jig McGalliger:
Then you missed the moral of the story. There are no "good" or "bad" endings. You reap what you sow. Force answers force, war breeds war, and death only brings death. To break this vicious circle one must do more than just act without any thought or doubt.

It’s not any more "evil" than, say… fire. It all depends on your point of view. Try to get a better understanding of things before you make your judgement.
Fair enough khan.
Btw have you read the book? In the book they present a danger and they mentaly destroy many of people for no reason other than they can.
Last edited by Maddog; Sep 9, 2017 @ 11:34am
Valky Sep 9, 2017 @ 2:56pm 
Originally posted by U_r_stupid:
Fair enough khan.
Btw have you read the book? In the book they present a danger and they mentaly destroy many of people for no reason other than they can.
From what i understood of the book and the game itself,the Dark ones don't "kill cause they can" it's the only way they have to communicate, by entering the mind of other species, and many humans can't take it and die or become crazy.
Last edited by Valky; Sep 9, 2017 @ 2:57pm
Pure & Rustic Sep 9, 2017 @ 5:54pm 
Originally posted by U_r_stupid:
Originally posted by Jig McGalliger:
Then you missed the moral of the story. There are no "good" or "bad" endings. You reap what you sow. Force answers force, war breeds war, and death only brings death. To break this vicious circle one must do more than just act without any thought or doubt.

It’s not any more "evil" than, say… fire. It all depends on your point of view. Try to get a better understanding of things before you make your judgement.
Fair enough khan.
Btw have you read the book? In the book they present a danger and they mentaly destroy many of people for no reason other than they can.
Fair enough KHAN... Thats the best comment in here so far...lol
I guess JIG knows it all and have all the dialogs in his head. He is committed to this, not like me.. I never read those books. I just skipped straight to the movies.. Oh sorry, games..
But.. it says in the intro.. "Inspired by the books of"... so i didnt expect that everything is like its in the books, the game devs have some freedom to do things like they want, like 2 endings..:mllrsniperround:
Last edited by Pure & Rustic; Sep 9, 2017 @ 5:56pm
Fire.al Sep 10, 2017 @ 1:23pm 
>why killing someone who actaully saved your life more than once and is the key to saving the whole mankind from extinction is considered a bad thing?

I cant answer such an hard question OP, but, heck i'm sure you were one of the sharpest ones back in class.
Maddog Sep 10, 2017 @ 11:07pm 
Originally posted by Fire.al:
>why killing someone who actaully saved your life more than once and is the key to saving the whole mankind from extinction is considered a bad thing?

I cant answer such an hard question OP, but, heck i'm sure you were one of the sharpest ones back in class.
Oh yeah he saved my life by giving me hallucinations and not saying anything until the end. Sure. Maybe I'm just too used to what happened in the books were they attack a outpost for no reason when they could just live in the botanical gardens.
FS Sep 11, 2017 @ 5:33am 
Originally posted by U_r_stupid:
Originally posted by Jig McGalliger:
Then you missed the moral of the story. There are no "good" or "bad" endings. You reap what you sow. Force answers force, war breeds war, and death only brings death. To break this vicious circle one must do more than just act without any thought or doubt.

It’s not any more "evil" than, say… fire. It all depends on your point of view. Try to get a better understanding of things before you make your judgement.
Fair enough khan.
Btw have you read the book? In the book they present a danger and they mentaly destroy many of people for no reason other than they can.

They were trying to establish a connection with humanity, to communicate. Even chilren hated by their parents still try to love and understand them.

In the book, Artyom successfully establishes a connection but its too late, missiles away.
Maddog Sep 11, 2017 @ 7:43am 
Originally posted by LoneWolf:
Originally posted by U_r_stupid:
Fair enough khan.
Btw have you read the book? In the book they present a danger and they mentaly destroy many of people for no reason other than they can.

They were trying to establish a connection with humanity, to communicate. Even chilren hated by their parents still try to love and understand them.

In the book, Artyom successfully establishes a connection but its too late, missiles away.
Yeah but couldn't they just leave them alone?
FS Sep 11, 2017 @ 7:55am 
Originally posted by U_r_stupid:
Originally posted by LoneWolf:

They were trying to establish a connection with humanity, to communicate. Even chilren hated by their parents still try to love and understand them.

In the book, Artyom successfully establishes a connection but its too late, missiles away.
Yeah but couldn't they just leave them alone?

>They were trying to establish a connection with humanity
Maddog Sep 11, 2017 @ 7:57am 
Originally posted by LoneWolf:
Originally posted by U_r_stupid:
Yeah but couldn't they just leave them alone?

>They were trying to establish a connection with humanity
Why doe? I wouldn't get my friends attention by performing a MK Ultra on him.

Fire.al Sep 11, 2017 @ 11:19am 
Originally posted by U_r_stupid:
Originally posted by LoneWolf:

>They were trying to establish a connection with humanity
Why doe? I wouldn't get my friends attention by performing a MK Ultra on him.

If you read the book I dont see the reason for this thread, unless it's some very weak attempt at trolling, it's explained very clearly there. I'll give you that it's not clear why they didn't stop after seeing what effect they had on humans, but there could plenty of reasons, since they managed to communicate with Artyom without issues thay had no reason to think it would have been that bad with other humans, probabaly they kept searchinig for others like him, also the fear that humans could try some "final solution" (like it actaully happens) on them unless they managed to explain themself fast enough... and this are just the firts reasons i can think of right now in 1 minute, there could be many more... It's not that hard...
Last edited by Fire.al; Sep 11, 2017 @ 11:22am
Maddog Sep 11, 2017 @ 11:36am 
Originally posted by Fire.al:
Originally posted by U_r_stupid:
Why doe? I wouldn't get my friends attention by performing a MK Ultra on him.

If you read the book I dont see the reason for this thread, unless it's some very weak attempt at trolling, it's explained very clearly there. I'll give you that it's not clear why they didn't stop after seeing what effect they had on humans, but there could plenty of reasons, since they managed to communicate with Artyom without issues thay had no reason to think it would have been that bad with other humans, probabaly they kept searchinig for others like him, also the fear that humans could try some "final solution" (like it actaully happens) on them unless they managed to explain themself fast enough... and this are just the firts reasons i can think of right now in 1 minute, there could be many more... It's not that hard...
I guess you're kind off right but I would blame the dark ones for intefeering with Artyom. Tbh this all Artyoms fault because He is the one who opens the door that leads to the botanical garderns from were the dark ones come from.
Fire.al Sep 11, 2017 @ 12:11pm 
His real fault is not managing to be the link between the dark ones and the humans, like he was "chosen" to be, due weakness, just go re-read the last two chapters of metro 2033 and you'll see.
Last edited by Fire.al; Sep 11, 2017 @ 12:11pm
Jig McGalliger Sep 11, 2017 @ 10:10pm 
What is theme? :metromask:
N0P3 Sep 14, 2017 @ 8:27pm 
Artyom was saved by the dark ones as a child and they connected with him because he was extremely young and not so rigid in belief systems and static morality. He was made a bridge except he would become a Ranger and wind up caught in the mosh with all of the politics of metro life inevitably becoming that which he was to avoid. Atyom ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up and works terms out internally to make amends later on and that we know from the story already; I won't spoil the rest but recommend playing the 2nd game too as it answers all the questions in this thread.
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