Stuck on Chapter 3 "cursed station"

[Depression]

First the game looked really awesome but now im on chapter 3 and the game feels very incomplete there, first i stucked on the train with khan no idea that i can and have to use a lighter to burn the web and now i stuck on the cursed station, with endless waves of enemys i got no goal or any mission i have no idea what the hell i have to do.

The game looked really nice, but now it starts to piss me off hardly...... can anyone help?

[Rail]

Publicado originalmente por wobbler:

Yes, I hid from most of the nosalises. Got onto the tracks and right over against the far wall in the dark and crept along. Most ran right past me and to the blockade where the other guys were.

There are three places where you absolutely can't avoid fighting them, and that is when you pick up the explosives, and when you plant them, and where you plant that pipe bomb in the other tunnel up the stairs.
At those points mutants are scripted to come for you and you have to fight them off.
The place where you plant the explosives is tricky if you get caught out, because they spawn every few seconds there as you approach and if you aren't careful they can push you back faster than you can approach to plant the explosives

The monsters sure are scripted to come for you but with little bit of try the whole level can be completed without getting a single hit.

[Broso]

This is some bugged piece of ♥♥♥♥ alright. Just because you don't follow daddy Khan around it completely gets screwed. Nice.

[NOCTURNE]

Publicado originalmente por Virsalus:

This is some bugged piece of ♥♥♥♥ alright. Just because you don't follow daddy Khan around it completely gets screwed. Nice.

1. Khan tells you what to do.
2. You journal also tells you what to do
3. Your compass shows the direction to your objective
4. Your lighter also shows the direction to your objective

If its not enough, you are a ♥♥♥♥♥♥. Pure and simple. Anyway, why would you even go on your own if you have a teamate to follow? Who actually tells you to follow...

[Broso]

He doesn't tell you what to do once the game bugs out. The journal doesn't ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ tell you where you need to go. You're literally in a defense situation, how would you even begin to think to search those tunnels without any further instruction?

Also, go ♥♥♥♥ yourself smartass. Pure and simple.

[Wobb the Great and Terrible!!!!!]

Well then it's a bug. Try restarting the mission from the mission select load menu.
The game does clearly tell you though, even if the marker doesn't show it because it's bugged.
You get to the station, the guys are there next to the mounted gun, you pick up supplies, they tell you and Khan what's going on, and that they sent a team to the tunnels to re-seal them. Khan then tells you to do it while they hold the line there.
Even without looking at your logbook for the directions, it's pretty simple stuff.

I can only imagine that since you didn't follow "daddy Khan", which you were supposed to do, he probably explained it all while you were wandering around out of earshot.
But the task is simple. Find the explosives, find the place to lay them, plant them and run, plant the pipebomb upstairs in the other tunnel, which I think is optional it's been ages since I played it. But I did both anyway, since it's fun to play with explosives and kill nosalises.

If you don't like a linear, story-driven game like this, then it's never going to appeal to you, so you would be better off stopping complaining about it and just uninstall it. Not all games appeal to all people.
For me, the metro games are the best games ever made, no competition. But I know that I'm in a minority there.

[Depression]

Publicado originalmente por NOCTURNE:

Publicado originalmente por Virsalus:

This is some bugged piece of ♥♥♥♥ alright. Just because you don't follow daddy Khan around it completely gets screwed. Nice.

1. Khan tells you what to do.
2. You journal also tells you what to do
3. Your compass shows the direction to your objective
4. Your lighter also shows the direction to your objective

If its not enough, you are a ♥♥♥♥♥♥. Pure and simple. Anyway, why would you even go on your own if you have a teamate to follow? Who actually tells you to follow...

yeah its absolutely HIS faul when the game starts to bug out if you move a BIT away from khan and keep you from continue....
did you ever played it once? the game is FILLED with bugs,

[NOCTURNE]

Publicado originalmente por Depression:

Publicado originalmente por NOCTURNE:

1. Khan tells you what to do.
2. You journal also tells you what to do
3. Your compass shows the direction to your objective
4. Your lighter also shows the direction to your objective

If its not enough, you are a ♥♥♥♥♥♥. Pure and simple. Anyway, why would you even go on your own if you have a teamate to follow? Who actually tells you to follow...

yeah its absolutely HIS faul when the game starts to bug out if you move a BIT away from khan and keep you from continue....
did you ever played it once? the game is FILLED with bugs,

I'm sure I played it more than you probably ever will. :) Never encountered any problems so far. But I usually do what the npc tells me. If they ask me to "come here quick" or "follow me", I won't walk away like a braindead zombie. But thats just me.

[NOCTURNE]

Publicado originalmente por Virsalus:

He doesn't tell you what to do once the game bugs out. The journal doesn't ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ tell you where you need to go. You're literally in a defense situation, how would you even begin to think to search those tunnels without any further instruction?

Also, go ♥♥♥♥ yourself smartass. Pure and simple.

Once again, just listen to the dialogues or check your journal to see what to do... Thats the "big" secret. Classic example of do not blame the game or others for your own stupidity, because the problem is cleary you. Peace.

[Depression]

The problem is clearly the game in this case, OF COURSE you can't continue if you have a GOAL to finish and it is to follow kahn but it is just terrible developed if the whole level breaks and you cant continue without restarting it.

[Wobb the Great and Terrible!!!!!]

Publicado originalmente por Depression:

The problem is clearly the game in this case, OF COURSE you can't continue if you have a GOAL to finish and it is to follow kahn but it is just terrible developed if the whole level breaks and you cant continue without restarting it.

But how did it break? Nobody explained anything about it breaking.
And if the answer is just to restart/reload/redo the mission, then it's hardly a major problem, now is it?

But please explain how it "broke", and then maybe someone can help to get you past it without having to restart.

And next time, just remember to keep your eyes and ears open for what you are supposed to do, and don't go wandering off while someone is trying to talk to you.

[Hursti]

just played this part again today, and i did NOT follow khan, but i already knew what to do since this is my 3rd playthrough, and i went straight for the bomb and did it without any problems. didnt get his dialog for what to do etc. dunno what you people here are b****ing about.

and seriously if you stood there 30mins "defending" you really seem a little simple to me.

[Tyger Eyes]

I gotta say this is the stupidest f'in post - here's why!

REASON 1 - If someone asks for the answer - what is the reason to dance around it? I mean I could see someone saying - Hey, if you want a spoiler free fix - restart the chapter (give menu commands) and (skip a couple lines)... otherwise, do this... and give the answer.

REASON 2 - Games can be great games and developers can do a great job overall and still do a f'in miserable job on some parts of the game. In reality, I did something similar...

I followed him down the tracks and listened to him to avoid ghosts and anomalies and such and even got the gist of getting the bomb but I did miss what to do with it. So, I fought a bit with them trying to f'in talk to him. Now, for a game that preaches realism, what the F prevents me from fighting with them for a few minutes and saying "What did you say to do with the bomb again?" "Where do I detonate it?" I mean stop making excuses and give a bloody answer....

How F'in Stupid. Good game, it's fun. It's got some key weaknesses - no matter what BS people toss out... even the deveopers know this... because future games improve on past ones... this mission has a few weak points. Not being able to reask a living quest giver to repeat is just STUPID. He's not a self-destructing mission tape... lol.
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ANSWERS YOU SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN:

If you want to just restart chapter to get the answer that's the easiest spoiler free way to re-get the mission specs - it's still REALLY STUPID YOU CAN'T ASK THE GUY AGAIN WHILE YOU HELP FIGHT OFF MUTANTS - but you'll have it re-explained -

COMPLETE SOLUTION (TEXT ANSWER): (1) Load-up on ammo and first aid kit with group of fighters before leaving for bombs and bombing runs; (2) creatures come in waves so between getting bombs and each bombing runs I returned to fighters to shake-off mutants so I preserve my own ammo for must kills on this mission; (3) to get the bombs run away from fighters group and exit right (not up the stairs right); (4) turn left so you are in the right tunnel still heading away from fighters - find bombs and pick-up up; (5) consider running back to group let them thin herd - helping only as needed preserve your ammo their ammo seems unlimited; (6) then run down center away from fighter group; (7) exit right but the one's going up the stairs and find catch on a wood beam, plant bomb, and run; (8) again consider returning to group to thin herd, reload, and save ammo for must kills; (9) heading away from group and exiting into left tunnel - go left then right so you are in left tunnel traveling away from fighter group - way down tunnel - and plant bombs and light them... boom. As you return to fighters and friend, you hear everyone get killed (save your friend-guide) follow him and you're out of cursed tunnels. Mission complete!


YOUTUBE: Personally, I had a ton more muntants coming at me and they do not ignore me but attack me when in the tunnels and not with fighters, but maybe this gamer had luck run and/or is on a less intense level.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_4yHxnKh3I

[Wobb the Great and Terrible!!!!!]

Publicado originalmente por Tyger Eyes:

I gotta say this is the stupidest f'in post - here's why!

REASON 1 - If someone asks for the answer - what is the reason to dance around it? I mean I could see someone saying - Hey, if you want a spoiler free fix - restart the chapter (give menu commands) and (skip a couple lines)... otherwise, do this... and give the answer.

REASON 2 - Games can be great games and developers can do a great job overall and still do a f'in miserable job on some parts of the game. In reality, I did something similar...

I followed him down the tracks and listened to him to avoid ghosts and anomalies and such and even got the gist of getting the bomb but I did miss what to do with it. So, I fought a bit with them trying to f'in talk to him. Now, for a game that preaches realism, what the F prevents me from fighting with them for a few minutes and saying "What did you say to do with the bomb again?" "Where do I detonate it?" I mean stop making excuses and give a bloody answer....

How F'in Stupid. Good game, it's fun. It's got some key weaknesses - no matter what BS people toss out... even the deveopers know this... because future games improve on past ones... this mission has a few weak points. Not being able to reask a living quest giver to repeat is just STUPID. He's not a self-destructing mission tape... lol.

Ok I get all your points until you say "even the developers know this". Saying that they improved on this in future games.
Because this is a remake/remaster of the original metro 2033, and the design of this level and how to get past it is exactly the same.
They changed other levels, giving new area's to poke around and explore, little bits of interesting things to see (like the watchman mother with her babies in the nest). But they kept this as-is. Because there's nothing really wrong with it. Even if you miss the dialogue, you can check your compass pointer and even the flame on your lighter, to see which way to go.
Now I suppose it's easy to miss, but this game makes more of a point of not holding your hand rather than a point of realism.

But your earlier point stands; maybe it might have been better to just have him repeat the objective if you hadn't moved on after a couple of minutes. I know they do this in other games sometimes.
But it's such a small issue (in terms of how many people encounter it), that I suppose they just never thought of it. Considering how few people got stuck here, my guess would be that they never noticed anyone with the issue in playtests, and so just went ahead with it as it is now.
And when the redux came around, they still hadn't seen any major amount of complaints, so they figured it wasn't worth spending the money on new voice acting for a few new lines of dialogue.

[Tyger Eyes]

Well, one of the nicer answers on this thread, but game play on this mission is still not realistic. Having the directions repeat would have been sufficient (timed repeat or triggered). Try to talk to him - Dialogue Option - "What do I do again?" (you're dialogue needs no voice just text) then Repeat Original Voice Record (already paid for...).

What I also object to is how this question was treated by some people. Dude asked a reasonable question... answer the f'in question (you as in general you... not you Wobbler -friendly smile). Just because someone likes to play with no hints does not mean others do... who cares how the person asking wants to play. If you don't want to help don't... but don't give answers that are essentially "playing laser pointer catch with a cat." It's just being rude for no reason.

Even revisions can contain typos that were in original and were missed... it might have been choice or just one of those that got away because of financial limits or human error. Developers are human too.

Cheers.

Publicado originalmente por wobbler:

Publicado originalmente por Tyger Eyes:

I gotta say this is the stupidest f'in post - here's why!

REASON 1 - If someone asks for the answer - what is the reason to dance around it? I mean I could see someone saying - Hey, if you want a spoiler free fix - restart the chapter (give menu commands) and (skip a couple lines)... otherwise, do this... and give the answer.

REASON 2 - Games can be great games and developers can do a great job overall and still do a f'in miserable job on some parts of the game. In reality, I did something similar...

I followed him down the tracks and listened to him to avoid ghosts and anomalies and such and even got the gist of getting the bomb but I did miss what to do with it. So, I fought a bit with them trying to f'in talk to him. Now, for a game that preaches realism, what the F prevents me from fighting with them for a few minutes and saying "What did you say to do with the bomb again?" "Where do I detonate it?" I mean stop making excuses and give a bloody answer....

How F'in Stupid. Good game, it's fun. It's got some key weaknesses - no matter what BS people toss out... even the deveopers know this... because future games improve on past ones... this mission has a few weak points. Not being able to reask a living quest giver to repeat is just STUPID. He's not a self-destructing mission tape... lol.

Ok I get all your points until you say "even the developers know this". Saying that they improved on this in future games.
Because this is a remake/remaster of the original metro 2033, and the design of this level and how to get past it is exactly the same.
They changed other levels, giving new area's to poke around and explore, little bits of interesting things to see (like the watchman mother with her babies in the nest). But they kept this as-is. Because there's nothing really wrong with it. Even if you miss the dialogue, you can check your compass pointer and even the flame on your lighter, to see which way to go.
Now I suppose it's easy to miss, but this game makes more of a point of not holding your hand rather than a point of realism.

But your earlier point stands; maybe it might have been better to just have him repeat the objective if you hadn't moved on after a couple of minutes. I know they do this in other games sometimes.
But it's such a small issue (in terms of how many people encounter it), that I suppose they just never thought of it. Considering how few people got stuck here, my guess would be that they never noticed anyone with the issue in playtests, and so just went ahead with it as it is now.
And when the redux came around, they still hadn't seen any major amount of complaints, so they figured it wasn't worth spending the money on new voice acting for a few new lines of dialogue.

[Wobb the Great and Terrible!!!!!]

Look in all forums there are rabid fanboy lunatics who will just spit out "git gud loser" or whatever, rather than offer any kind of help at all.
Personally I thought how it worked was sufficient, but I don't want to not help someone who thinks differently and got stuck.