Anyone likes to play modded

[Nouser]

Is the modding community active? i like to play with some blood mods ect but i don't think much people do so

[Parboleum Loyce]

there's a discord server for it, but the mod manager they develop got broke a few updates ago and they have yet to fix it

[Nouser]

Publicado originalmente por Parboleum Loyce:

there's a discord server for it, but the mod manager they develop got broke a few updates ago and they have yet to fix it

Im using melon loader than cement sadly i can only find like 4 mods that work for it (currently only use knockout bars) it's pretty simple to set up but i can't find more mods

[Parboleum Loyce]

Publicado originalmente por Nouser:

i can't find more mods

that's because there aren't any more. the only people making mods are the cement people, and they're not known for being productive lol

[Nouser]

Publicado originalmente por Parboleum Loyce:

Publicado originalmente por Nouser:

i can't find more mods

that's because there aren't any more. the only people making mods are the cement people, and they're not known for being productive lol

no one uses cement rn so yeah.. last mod i found was posted this month for melon loader

[Parboleum Loyce]

Publicado originalmente por Nouser:

Publicado originalmente por Parboleum Loyce:

that's because there aren't any more. the only people making mods are the cement people, and they're not known for being productive lol

no one uses cement rn so yeah.. last mod i found was posted this month for melon loader

But what i'm saying is that the people making melonloader mods are the cement devs.
They're the ONLY people modding gang beasts at this point.

[SMChillin]

Publicado originalmente por Parboleum Loyce:

But what i'm saying is that the people making melonloader mods are the cement devs.
They're the ONLY people modding gang beasts at this point.

LOL, you've confirmed that very few people seem to care for modding Gang Beasts which kinda contradicts previous posts you made about the importance of keeping modders happy.

[Parboleum Loyce]

Publicado originalmente por SMChillin:

Publicado originalmente por Parboleum Loyce:

But what i'm saying is that the people making melonloader mods are the cement devs.
They're the ONLY people modding gang beasts at this point.

LOL, you've confirmed that very few people seem to care for modding Gang Beasts which kinda contradicts previous posts you made about the importance of keeping modders happy.

I'm not sure what posts you're referring to, but there's a lot of people interested in being able to mod their copies of the game, but not actually interested in making those mods themselves.

[SMChillin]

Publicado originalmente por Parboleum Loyce:

Publicado originalmente por SMChillin:

Are the devs working on closing whatever loophole allows that modification? Because, while diplomatic, you don't sound convinced that it isn't cheating. Sure seems like being able to see everything would give you an unfair advantage, like wall hacks.

As far as I'm aware, implementing something to prevent free-cam would also harm the game's (admittedly limited) modding ecosystem, so I doubt they would do that - As you can get free cam as simply as just using unity explorer.

So no, as far as I'm aware they aren't doing anything about freecam.

To be fair, as I already indicated, freecam can't really give you that much of an advantage in this game anyway, since the few places where the camera can prove to be a disadvantage aren't so bad when you can show player names anyway.

[Parboleum Loyce]

Publicado originalmente por SMChillin:

Publicado originalmente por Parboleum Loyce:

As far as I'm aware, implementing something to prevent free-cam would also harm the game's (admittedly limited) modding ecosystem, so I doubt they would do that - As you can get free cam as simply as just using unity explorer.

So no, as far as I'm aware they aren't doing anything about freecam.

To be fair, as I already indicated, freecam can't really give you that much of an advantage in this game anyway, since the few places where the camera can prove to be a disadvantage aren't so bad when you can show player names anyway.

And... How am I contradicting this?

I said in this post that there's a limited modding ecosystem.
As in, there isn't much going on there; This is the same thing that I indicated here.

It seems that you have misunderstood my month-old post; I was indicating that the modding community - however small, that the developers like to encourage - was an additional reason behind the developers of the game not going out of their way to prevent things like free-cam.

At no point did I make posts about 'the importance of keeping modders happy', I just passed on the knowledge I had about the reasoning behind the developers' (in)actions to the person asking questions.

I don't understand why you're apparently lurking the forum just to pick a fight without adding anything to this post.

[SMChillin]

Look, since you're hyper-focused on my wording rather than the actual problem, you said they wont remove an exploit because it would affect the limited modding community and then said that very few people mod and also said that their mod manager is broken and the devs haven't fixed it.

To answer your question about lurking, I check the forum to see if there is any updates about a game I used to really enjoy. I only started after the last update made the game experience bad for me, and after I met some people on here I learned some things that concerned me. I have been trying to get those concerns addressed but every-time I bring it up I get rebuffed in some new way. This time appears to be anger and questioning my right to read the forums and bring up questions.

[Nouser]

Publicado originalmente por Parboleum Loyce:

Publicado originalmente por Nouser:

no one uses cement rn so yeah.. last mod i found was posted this month for melon loader

But what i'm saying is that the people making melonloader mods are the cement devs.
They're the ONLY people modding gang beasts at this point.

That's just wrong

[Parboleum Loyce]

Publicado originalmente por Nouser:

Publicado originalmente por Parboleum Loyce:

But what i'm saying is that the people making melonloader mods are the cement devs.
They're the ONLY people modding gang beasts at this point.

That's just wrong

No, it isn't.
Besides the extremely recent stats mod (which is a mod that has already existed for every other mod loader/manager, so I'm not really counting it) they're all made by UltimateNuke.
Who is a Cement Developer.

[Super Rampage Bros]

What's going on here is that SMC is mad about the recent camera change (and rightfully so) and has learned that there are people who have the knowledge to overcome and fix those issues he has to deal with now. He doesn't understand modding or hacker culture and seems hell bent on making everyone's experience as miserable as he perceives it to be.

[Parboleum Loyce]

Publicado originalmente por SMChillin:

Look, since you're hyper-focused on my wording rather than the actual problem, you said they wont remove an exploit because it would affect the limited modding community and then said that very few people mod and also said that their mod manager is broken and the devs haven't fixed it.

No, I said that they won't go out of their way to shut down client-side modification because among other reasons, it would affect the modding.
And yes, Cement, the main mod manager for the game is broken and has yet to be fixed. Your point?

Publicado originalmente por SMChillin:

To answer your question about lurking, I check the forum to see if there is any updates about a game I used to really enjoy. I only started after the last update made the game experience bad for me, and after I met some people on here I learned some things that concerned me. I have been trying to get those concerns addressed but every-time I bring it up I get rebuffed in some new way. This time appears to be anger and questioning my right to read the forums and bring up questions.

If you are trying to get your concerns about the game addressed, why are you on the steam forums? This is for player discussion - If you want to be heard by the devs, you should try their support email or contacting them directly on discord.

[Super Rampage Bros]

I suppose the developers are just agnostic (edit: I mean in a way where they don't care if it can be done or not) towards the gang beasts modding scene. The recent switch to IL2CPP broke a lot of toys, yet there are no active measures to prevent it per se. Whether this is coming from a technical, philosophical or necessity direction can be speculated on.

I believe as long as there is no problem, there is no need for action. That being said, modders do carry a responsibility when it comes to releasing their work, as some can be considered cheats. In my personal opinion, you have to distinguish whether a mod would be beneficial or detrimental to the players' experience if they were to be employed globally.

So if everyone had 360 cam, I would consider that a great thing and I hope it will be implemented one day. For stats mod, there was a reason why the health bars were removed, because people would just go running all the time to fill up their hp. So i consider that a bad thing.

Also since the competition recently came along with 360° camera, the developers should at least by then have considered this being a feature players could desire. But for reasons that must be cosmetic in nature or simply considering not being able to see what you're doing and having to control blindly being a vital feature of the game, they aren't doing it.

Asking for countermeasures to modding will lead to the awful, resource binding cat and mouse game that has been going on for decades in so many other games.

Good things have come out of mods, and the idea is that they will at some point in time make the game a better experience, be it by modded versions or good ideas finding their way back upstream. A simple example, I had written a scoreboard mod which was pretty cool and considered releasing it, but before that happened, IL2CPP came along and broke it. It's also one of the things that should really be in the game to begin with, it's a couple of hours of work for the developers. But maybe having to remember exactly how many stars each player had is considered a vital feature of the game, who knows.

All there really is left is to appeal to those releasing mods to do it responsibly and not ♥♥♥♥ up the fun for everyone else.