Help.

[Lupus]

Does anyone else have as much trouble playing this as I do? I usually find lobbies okay and all, it's just the actual controls. Some people seem to know what they're doing and are able to life bodies above themselves and throw people with stratagy, but I can't hoist anyone... Everytime I try throw anyone I have to use jump to even move them and usually end up killing myself. My best chance so far has been to grab and hold something and try not die. I spam jump to avoid people throwing me off edges. But the controls for this are too unorganised?

[Parboleum Loyce]

They aren't unorganised at all. Not a clue what you're on about. You do realise there is a button to lift things you're holding, or just your arms when you're not?

[Lupus]

Originally posted by Pybromancer:

They aren't unorganised at all. Not a clue what you're on about. You do realise there is a button to lift things you're holding, or just your arms when you're not?

Yes the shift button is to ''Lift'' but it never seems to actually lift people. I have lots of trouble grabbing someone who is unconscious and when I manage to, lift doesn't pull them off the ground. Then there is an obvious struggle when they're awake.

[Parboleum Loyce]

It's not a game problem, because if you've grabbed someone who's unconcious, and hold the lift button, they will be lifted up. That's how it works and always have. It's clearly an input issue. And what do you mean 'there is an obvious struggle when they're awake'? There was no point mentioning that, as you're not MEANT to be picking them up while they're awake.

[Darkjanggo]

Actually, Pybro, I can hardly lift up anything. It's like I'm carrying a girder.

[Parboleum Loyce]

Originally posted by Darkjanggo:

Actually, Pybro, I can hardly lift up anything. It's like I'm carrying a girder.

Janggo, are you on girders?

[Darkjanggo]

It's like that on any map.

[P0NYSLAYSTATION]

Ok so lifting isnt quite as easy as they make out but not as ineffective as you make it sound, check that when you hit lift without grabbing stuff your arms go up :P

Beyond that, think about momentum and where your handholds are. The best but hardest way to grab someone is by the shoulder and hip but you can make most grabs work. Most grabs will be on the chest and back and you arent going to lift them much higher than your head like that but you can spin for momentum. That also helps deal with their struggling.

You can grab conscious opponents but either grab and throw using the momentum of lift or spinning or grab them in a way their arms and head cant hit you easy. You dont want to be holding a conscious opponent for long even if theyre struggling to hit you at the moment.

If youre having trouble near edges and getting grabbed, grab back and hold A (jump) and B (headbutt) to lift yourself into a handstand, useful for flipping over their shoulder to escape or climbing ledges like to escape the subway rails. Do it fast and use the momentum to propel yourself far away since youre putting your head undefended at perfect punching height.

Also you used the word hoist in your post so just to clarify A (jump/sprint/hoist) button is used to hoist you own body, not what you are holding. Y (lift) button is the one you want for lifting what you are holding.

[Lupus]

Originally posted by P0NYSLAYSTATION:

I'm using a keyboard and I've imagined a controller would make this game a lot easier, but I wouldn't know the first think about trying to use a controller with my computer. There is also no headbutt button, just left punch, right punch and kick, but kick is so out of the way to press.

Regardless thanks for all your help.