Why Dawn of War 3 Failed So Hard...

[Daryl]

We loved both or atleast one of the other of Dawn of War
Dawn of War 1 and Dawn of War 2

But why did Dawn of War 3 failed so hard?
Because it became a Starcraft Moba.
I mean given that Starcraft was inspired by Warhammer
for Relic to make Warhammer Dawn of War 3 an almost-copy of Starcraft was a sick joke nobody expected.


And quite frankly
LORE BREAKING BOLSHEVIT

SERIOUSLY?
FLIPPING GABRIEL ANGELOS?
FLIPPING GABRIEL ANGELOS WITH A DAEMONHAMMER?

"Oh I need to go to this point from here, So Click on this Button so I can do a Flip to this location and smash the ground for no reason. Just to go across a crevass or reach the Upper Ground"

ARE YOU SERIOUS?
THATS WHAT YOU'D EXPECT FROM A STARCRAFT GAME
(Zeratul had that happening for quite a few solo missions even)

[Fnord]

Originally posted by Daryl:

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

Gabriel has had a Daemonhammer since DoW1.

he does
but he never did backflips with it
or front flips
he use it for war

Just a heads up, as you're complaining about the backflips. In official GW-released fluff from this side of the year 2000, terminators can backflip from a standing position. Yes, it's been written into the fluff, and GW published it.

[mathcore dei hire]

look, shut up about lore, I like warhammer, hell I even own the minis, but its lore, you need to read about 10 books to understand necrons and about 60 to understand tau, then about 150 to understand space marines

[Charlando[SunsOfStmChrts]]

Originally posted by Weeb:

look, shut up about lore, I like warhammer, hell I even own the minis, but its lore, you need to read about 10 books to understand necrons and about 60 to understand tau, then about 150 to understand space marines

How could one afford all these 40k books?

[mathcore dei hire]

Originally posted by CharlandoSunsOfStmChrts:

Originally posted by Weeb:

look, shut up about lore, I like warhammer, hell I even own the minis, but its lore, you need to read about 10 books to understand necrons and about 60 to understand tau, then about 150 to understand space marines

How could one afford all these 40k books?

I cant, but thats what I get from the amount of the books they release, and i bet about 2 of them are filler

[Fortunado]

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

Gabriel has had a Daemonhammer since DoW1.

i believe the OP was refering to the possiblity that it would be hard to execute said back and frontflips with the huge hammer, nevermind the termi armor

[KillSlim]

Originally posted by Weeb:

look, shut up about lore, I like warhammer, hell I even own the minis, but its lore, you need to read about 10 books to understand necrons and about 60 to understand tau, then about 150 to understand space marines

Originally posted by Weeb:

Originally posted by CharlandoSunsOfStmChrts:

How could one afford all these 40k books?

I cant, but thats what I get from the amount of the books they release, and i bet about 2 of them are filler

Every book Black Library releases isn't a significant addition to lore at all. The vast majority of 40K novella, especially over the past 7 years or so before the timeline advanced, have been self-contained stories that shed no new light on anything in 40K. There is a lot more filler in BL stuff than you might imagine. Also, no, you don't need to read 150 books to understand Space Marines.

Go read the 40K Lexicanum if you want to look up stuff.

[Fnord]

Originally posted by Weeb:

look, shut up about lore, I like warhammer, hell I even own the minis, but its lore, you need to read about 10 books to understand necrons and about 60 to understand tau, then about 150 to understand space marines

Or the fluff section of one of the main rulebooks. That would be enough.
Alternatively skim through the descriptions of the main factions on any of the 40k wikis

[jonoliveira12]

Originally posted by kingmarkie:

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

Gabriel has had a Daemonhammer since DoW1.

i believe the OP was refering to the possiblity that it would be hard to execute said back and frontflips with the huge hammer, nevermind the termi armor

Apparently, there are Astartes whi can perform backflips in Terminator Armour, so that settles it.

[mathcore dei hire]

Originally posted by KillSlim:

Originally posted by Weeb:

look, shut up about lore, I like warhammer, hell I even own the minis, but its lore, you need to read about 10 books to understand necrons and about 60 to understand tau, then about 150 to understand space marines

Originally posted by Weeb:

I cant, but thats what I get from the amount of the books they release, and i bet about 2 of them are filler

Every book Black Library releases isn't a significant addition to lore at all. The vast majority of 40K novella, especially over the past 7 years or so before the timeline advanced, have been self-contained stories that shed no new light on anything in 40K. There is a lot more filler in BL stuff than you might imagine. Also, no, you don't need to read 150 books to understand Space Marines.

Go read the 40K Lexicanum if you want to look up stuff.

Originally posted by Fnord:

Originally posted by Weeb:

look, shut up about lore, I like warhammer, hell I even own the minis, but its lore, you need to read about 10 books to understand necrons and about 60 to understand tau, then about 150 to understand space marines

Or the fluff section of one of the main rulebooks. That would be enough.
Alternatively skim through the descriptions of the main factions on any of the 40k wikis

both of you cant catch the fact im joking can you, I have read the rule book, I do understand most armies, but the amount of books is stupid, and most of the books add at least 1 bit of lore, but like I said, its lore, nobody but sweaty basement dwelling nerd really care about it

[Fnord]

Originally posted by Weeb:

both of you cant catch the fact im joking can you, I have read the rule book, I do understand most armies, but the amount of books is stupid, and most of the books add at least 1 bit of lore, but like I said, its lore, nobody but sweaty basement dwelling nerd really care about it

No, it was not overly obvious, as we could not hear the tone of your voice, or anything like that which would give it away during normal conversation. It looked like a huge exageration for sure, but such "complaints" as yours are not uncommon to hear. People making a mole out mountain out of a molehill is pretty much the norm in internet debates, in particular when it comes to "nerd subjects".

And sorry for being a sweaty basment dwelling nerd who actually enjoys the 40k setting and is not ashamed of it (view is pretty good from my basement though).

[mathcore dei hire]

Originally posted by Fnord:

Originally posted by Weeb:

both of you cant catch the fact im joking can you, I have read the rule book, I do understand most armies, but the amount of books is stupid, and most of the books add at least 1 bit of lore, but like I said, its lore, nobody but sweaty basement dwelling nerd really care about it

No, it was not overly obvious, as we could not hear the tone of your voice, or anything like that which would give it away during normal conversation. It looked like a huge exageration for sure, but such "complaints" as yours are not uncommon to hear. People making a mole out mountain out of a molehill is pretty much the norm in internet debates, in particular when it comes to "nerd subjects".

And sorry for being a sweaty basment dwelling nerd who actually enjoys the 40k setting and is not ashamed of it (view is pretty good from my basement though).

the way you could tell im joking is by the fact that I was exaggerating the numbers, which is a way to tell if someone is joking on the internet, where you cant hear them, also, honestly warhammer is a toxic community, joking about the lore being filler and exaggerating the amount of books you need to read to understand it gets about 60 people from your local GW to say "not true you only need to read the odd book here and there" and i have, but I dont even understand Necrons, the army I own 2000pts of miniatures of


tl;dr

the warhammer community goes ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ over anything you say, and the people with the dickiest armies, like skitarii are fine about it, because they already act like ♥♥♥♥♥ in one part of warhammer, and know they dont need to be a ♥♥♥♥ in others

[SkathiTheJotunn]

Originally posted by Ekko Tek:

Who cares if he backflips or not? If that's what stops people from playing an RTS, like seriously go play another genre.

Careful, ive had threats on my life for saying this exact thing.

[Narry]

Originally posted by Daryl:

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

Gabriel has had a Daemonhammer since DoW1.

he does
but he never did backflips with it
or front flips
he use it for war

jeezus these guys are genetically made for war
they have no time for ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ show-offness.
otherwise thats heretical to Emperor's Children level.

I'm a WarHammer fan and I think you are far too strict about what cannot be done in the lore. Seriously, you're whinging about him doing a stupid backflip, that really such a huge issue for you?

[Mystegan]

Well.. backflips are just a far inferior to summersaults after all. silly backflips.

[mathcore dei hire]

Originally posted by Narry:

Originally posted by Daryl:

he does
but he never did backflips with it
or front flips
he use it for war

jeezus these guys are genetically made for war
they have no time for ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ show-offness.
otherwise thats heretical to Emperor's Children level.

I'm a WarHammer fan and I think you are far too strict about what cannot be done in the lore. Seriously, you're whinging about him doing a stupid backflip, that really such a huge issue for you?

this is what ive been saying
its lore, if it happens, it happens
if the tau R A P E a space marine, it happens