Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War III

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Amogus Jul 25, 2017 @ 2:33pm
Why is Tau weeaboo when the Imperiaium of Man is basicly Empire Of Japan in SPACE?
Empire of Japan has "God Emp", "Religous Fanatic holy warriors" " Banzai chrages", "a lot of dudes scream i die for the emperor!" "the emperor protects", Like using swards and byanet, the navy and the army don't get along very well, it's like latinized Empire of Japan in Space.
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Jack Deth Jul 25, 2017 @ 2:56pm 
Well. The voice acting in the older game(s) do tend to have that setereotypical Asian accent. The mechs remind(ed) some people as having been influenced by Mecha anime more so than say a SM dreadnaught, they have an assortment of other things people associate with Asian with their aesthetics.

The concept of the greater good at individual cost, ceremonial blades carried by Ethereals as awell as fire caste warriors, some of the designs, the super shiny super tech over the dark age of technology deal.

I'm sure someone else will chime in more depth, but this is bits I've gathered over the years. I just don't like'em myself, but not due to any perceived assumptions of anime influence.
FoolishNinja Jul 25, 2017 @ 3:30pm 
theyre yellow. who else is yellow? correct.
Jack Deth Jul 25, 2017 @ 3:39pm 
Originally posted by Foolish Ninja:
theyre yellow. who else is yellow? correct.
Actually...

https://youtu.be/68ugkg9RePc
jonoliveira12 Jul 25, 2017 @ 3:56pm 
Originally posted by (╯‵□′)╯︵┻━┻:
Empire of Japan has "God Emp", "Religous Fanatic holy warriors" " Banzai chrages", "a lot of dudes scream i die for the emperor!" "the emperor protects", Like using swards and byanet, the navy and the army don't get along very well, it's like latinized Empire of Japan in Space.

God Emperors, Suicide Charges, Nationalistic Warshouts, and Religious Warfare; have been a thing in Ancient Egypt and Rome, long before Japan got any sort of Empire going on.

The Imperium of Man, is Space Rome.
BridgetFisher Jul 25, 2017 @ 4:31pm 
Its nothing like the empire of Japan considering that the Emperor is God of all mankind and Space Marines do NOT banzai charge into weaponry simply to get mowed down as the Japanese did. That would be a simple violation of the astartes.

When Space Marines Banzai Charge they do it as shock infantry in advanced armor to overwhelm the enemy strategically. This as opposed to the Japanese who just wanted to die instead of be captured which was most dishonorable.

Tau are not weeb, their very forward thinking actually and inclusive unlike the Japanese with no Gaijin allowed. The Tau are very Gaijin friendly so not weeb at all xDDD

Suspect that planet of Imperial Guard Cat Girls might be something worth looking into though?
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Amogus Jul 25, 2017 @ 5:00pm 
Originally posted by jonoliveira12:
God Emperors, Suicide Charges, Nationalistic Warshouts, and Religious Warfare; have been a thing in Ancient Egypt and Rome, long before Japan got any sort of Empire going on.

The Imperium of Man, is Space Rome.
Rome didn't have god emperor, they started out as a REPUBLIC, and roman don't do sucide charges, Imperium of man is Empire of japan with Roman skin.
Godzilla Rose Jul 25, 2017 @ 5:24pm 
Originally posted by Tyberos the Red Wake:
Well. The voice acting in the older game(s) do tend to have that setereotypical Asian accent. The mechs remind(ed) some people as having been influenced by Mecha anime more so than say a SM dreadnaught, they have an assortment of other things people associate with Asian with their aesthetics.

The concept of the greater good at individual cost, ceremonial blades carried by Ethereals as awell as fire caste warriors, some of the designs, the super shiny super tech over the dark age of technology deal.

I'm sure someone else will chime in more depth, but this is bits I've gathered over the years. I just don't like'em myself, but not due to any perceived assumptions of anime influence.
Tau is very Japanese. Eldar are the most "anime" faction for sure though. Then the Imperium of Man is a third place.
XTS Jul 25, 2017 @ 6:54pm 
Tau are weeaboo space communists, enough of this vile talk of xeno filth.
General McFist Jul 25, 2017 @ 7:08pm 
...Imperiaium...Swards. lol
Gouf Jul 25, 2017 @ 9:12pm 
Imperial is more like roman and soviet than japan empire
Hokunin Jul 25, 2017 @ 10:14pm 
You are wrong. Empire of Mankind is mainly an exaggerated model of early ww2 era Soviet Union with their cult of Stalin and complete obedience to the party's course and death sentences to anyone who oppose it. That's why Empire has commissar's, guardsmen who are meatfodder with helmets that remind Russian spetsnaz helmet, the two headed eagle is an official emblem of Russian Federation. But not only that, Empire actually consists of many model cultures, mainly European: hence we can see Medieval Era knights which are spacemarines, feodal lords, witchhunts, crusades, cruel way of living, constant wars etc.

Tau are modelled after Asian stereotypes of China and Japan. Its has ideology of communist China yet gundam mech robots of Japan. Firewarriors armor relatively reminds of Samurai armor. Ethereals wear samurai casual clothing etc. The feodal civilization who developed very fast in short time period into technocracy - Asia.
Amogus Jul 25, 2017 @ 10:58pm 
Originally posted by Hokunin:
You are wrong. Empire of Mankind is mainly an exaggerated model of early ww2 era Soviet Union with their cult of Stalin and complete obedience to the party's course and death sentences to anyone who oppose it. That's why Empire has commissar's, guardsmen who are meatfodder with helmets that remind Russian spetsnaz helmet, the two headed eagle is an official emblem of Russian Federation. But not only that, Empire actually consists of many model cultures, mainly European: hence we can see Medieval Era knights which are spacemarines, feodal lords, witchhunts, crusades, cruel way of living, constant wars etc.

Tau are modelled after Asian stereotypes of China and Japan. Its has ideology of communist China yet gundam mech robots of Japan. Firewarriors armor relatively reminds of Samurai armor. Ethereals wear samurai casual clothing etc. The feodal civilization who developed very fast in short time period into technocracy - Asia.
The Imperium is not even cloes to soviet union, there are russian themed guardsmen regiments vahalla ice warriors basicly are the Soviet in Space, but the Cadian pattern (the most common guardsmen uniforms) are not russian, they are more like a mixture of ww2/vietnam era US soldiers with some German influence, The DKOK is bascily ww1 german in space.

The Imperial Aquila is also not a Russian thing, Yeah Russian use them, but it's orignated from the Byzantine, or the Eastern Roman empire, many other European like the Prussian also used the two headed eagle as their symble.

But i do kind of agree that a lot of the Imperium stuffs are also quite in line with Late antiquity and mideval period Europe.

And finally how can tau be communist when they have super rigit social caste system, that would turn Marx over the grave lol. they are more like space East Indian to me.
Amogus Jul 25, 2017 @ 10:59pm 
Originally posted by General McFist:
...Imperiaium...Swards. lol
my spelling is bad :p
Hokunin Jul 26, 2017 @ 1:19am 
(╯‵□′)╯︵┻━┻ dude just google "ZSH-1 helmet" you'll see what I'm talking about russian spetznaz helmet. The original idea of GW in the end of past century when they created warhammer IP(thats during the cold war) was to reimagine the most horrible totalitarian regime ever on the whole Galaxy, where mass murders and genocide are normality. For that they took Nazi Germany dictatorship and Soviet Union as models and combined them. If you notice, the two headed eagle has prolonged wings that copy nazi eagle emblem, while heads copy russian eagle emblem, don't forget commissars. Why would they give a heck about byzantium? Just use your head dude. There are subdivision of many european cultures in imperium, even vikings, but the general idea is its germany and russia.

Originally posted by (╯‵□′)╯︵┻━┻:
And finally tau are more like East Indian to me.

Say whaaaaaaaaaa??? Lol, you must be the only one who thinks they are indians haha. First time reading it. Didn't know walking futuristic gundam mechs which normally associated with developed japan anime culture is related to 3rd world india living in shacks drinking dirty water. Wow.
And actually now that I think about it, Tau's "The greater good" ideology kinda reminds me about WW2 era Japan's "Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere" ideology, that was imposed on all asian countries as the basis of their propaganda, which stated that they actually benefit from joining japanese empire of the rising sun. Naturally they forcefully made all asian countries join into the greater prosperity sphere of theirs, not voluntarily.

"First/Second/Third Sphere Expansion" - thats how Tau's name their campaigns - it couldn't be more obvious than that.
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Amogus Jul 26, 2017 @ 11:01am 
Originally posted by Hokunin:
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If you look up valhalla ice warrior then you will know that they are specificly desgined to be space russian. so use your logic, if they already speceficly made an army style to be Russian in space and also specificly made another army to be German in Space (Death Krops of KREG how german can you get with that name?) why the hell they would bother to make the Cadian (which is the most common guardsmen) also soviet/germany? they are obviously desgined to be more in line with generic near future soldier, kind of remind me of UNSC army/marine.

the Aquila, with two heads eagle is orginially invented by the BYZANTINE, and everyone else just copied and moded the Byzantine Eagle. so the current imperial aquilia is not from Nazi germany or Soviet Russia. it is from the BYZANTINE. Even the Russian Eagle is from the Byzantine, in fact the Russina use the two headed eagle because it consdier itself to be the successor of the Eastern Roman empire...

The imperium of man is also not centralized goverment like that of Soviet Union or Nazi germany, infact it is a fedual empire similer to rome and anicent Japan, More in line with Japan as the Emperor was a figure head has no power, and the country is runed by the Shogun and the Shogun demand taxes from the each of the Feudual lords functioning just like IMPERIUM OF MAN.

and Finally tau has a CASTE in their society, the only country with such a rigit caste system exist in our world is India. But i do agree on you about the Greater good sound like Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere.
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