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I want a unique good game that doesn't steal other stuff from other games to be successful. It's not about liking 1 or 2. Tell me, if humanity didn't have confilicting views would we be here? Of course not.
You know why I'm mad at you and your kinda people. You people just ridicule people who don't like the game. This forum seen so many threads that critized the game and it got derailled people like Charlando and others that I can't name. Every time when someone makes a post you and other guys start commenting "but DoW 2 is a MOBA", "but X is bad", "f*ck off from our forums". and you are still doing that. I'm not going anywhere because DoW 1 or 2 is good. I'm staying here because this isn't a good game. Why it's not a good game? You wanna know because it has good games that haunt this game because it's part of a series.
You can ignore this much as you like but DoW 1-2 was unique compared to this. That is what I want not this and give me a exact reason why I shouldn't be sitting on most active and new DoW forum and talk about it? Because you said so?
True I am guilty of that as well however I do try to change.
You mean about Turkey? It is just an example of what I can think of that is actually way more important than spending your time argueing on a hub of a game you dont like, i mean actually really important. I probably would as I in rl participate in changing peoples views of the world.
What exactly? How? Gather neonazis, right extremists to meet people who were the target of holocaust but survived. It is quite fascinating to see some of those people cry with 2 Sigrunes as haircut at their back of their head. So yeah I would do something cause that is more important and has a direct effect on my life if I would live in turkey.
If it was only how to use vpn, which vpn are good. How to not use facebook to get locked up for laughing about erdogan looking like gollum, spread that knowledge and so on.
Sure it is important but they, the people who do reviews for a living, have a certain amount of credibility, so if you review bad games in a good way you will not get through with it, also there are several ways to proof stuff. Suicide? I think you would be famous after that. I mean come on a guy by his conscience will leak documents with proof of reviews being up for sale and he doesnt want to participate in that... so he leaves x and makes up his own site/youtube whatever, that thing would probably skyrocket. He surely would earn enoughh via ads.
Take IGN for example they do say you can buy ads but no matter how much you buy, the teams are seperated. There is an interesting Q&A on reddit where that guy also explains quite a bit.
I do want a worthy sucessor too, however DoW3 is not a bad game by any means. But there are 2 ways how we can approach this, at least from my point of view.
You have ofc the right to not buy the game, however useless yelling and cry will not help and be sure that this will only diminish the chances of another DoW in the future.
How about buy the product for 25€ on some site and making actual real good threads how the game can imprrove with realistic expectations on what relic can do, in a civil manner.
The game plays great if you approach it with an open mind and dont clinch to the past. with imo good graphics.
I already answered to that above but maybe it will make him take action and get off his ass, the real shame would be to do nothing in his place and wake up in 1-2 years later with a ministry of truth. Just in case you got that wrong, i dont mean he should get the death penalty... but if anybody can change the direction where turkey is going its the people there.
Probably I would have left the country by then if all efforts to stop it had failed.
I dont know why so many people have problems with names on the forums, since you asked ... it is a song by band called "Kraftklub" and I just happen to have an earworm by that no matter what else I listen to atm. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BaG-V7mh9I
However what is "Tea Age" for a name? o:O Is there any sense in talking about names which have 0 meaning in the end?
If you believe that I think that this is my point of view regarding critics of the game than you havent really read my opinion on that cause I think that the game can actually imprrove on quite a few things.
However I dont chose to ignore that relic for example added annihalation cause it was requested. I think it can be great with enough time/work. I mean really really great but I just dont like the way how many of the people who do have a problem with the game approach it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbckPpmtovI
Here this is what we are talking about. You can't win against a cheater when we are talking about numbers to things.
Like I wanna see where people need to realize is, most of the stuff are NOT EASY as some people who don't live in there put out to be.
Relic needs to get a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ brain, like seriously, i defended this game at first, but now... after they throw worthless skins at us to try and keep us happy, and one map a month... they can go ♥♥♥♥ themselves.
I HONESTLY dont understand the makers of RTS games these days... like how EA killed C&C, relic/saga are killing DoW.... It literally only needed a ghrapics upgrade of DoW1, with hero units maybe. and they woulda blitzed it. Its like they're TRYING to fail.
I do understand that those are not active anymore, otherwise you would be there, that is why I said that. Also it shows to a certain degree that the mp is not as alive as some people want it to be.
That is actually why I stayed away from Sindris thread in the beginning, didnt want to derail it. Cause I thought no matter how I will post in it, the result will be derailing.
It actually is a good game, if you would only make up your own mind. HJ? He did it so can you, 25€ on other sites. The first time you have that back and forth tug of war push, shooting with 3 fireprrisms into other units and abilities going off and you see that big ass gorkanaut go down etc it really is damn fun.
Give it a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ chance and stop clinching to the past and to dwell in this self sorrow, you love the franchise? Get the game, play it. Stop comparing it to 1-2, rather see what you would like to see diffrrent without to clinch to the past...
I didnt say it was easy did I?
I dont expect it to be easy, but maybe now it is not too late. But I doubt you will change it with a vote. Safe communications are probably the most important thing for you people there. So get started on VPNs which are good and why and that give that to your family, your friends and so on.
I just think that now is the time that you guys have left to change it before that penalty will be used to further scare people... or pack up your stuff and leave. It is your choice, none of them are easy.
I knew about that with the votes also with the kurds being arrested prior to the vote so they couldnt vote... and that the motion from opposition was denied afterwards. Does he really have the masses behind him? I mean look he cheated at that referendum so damn bad as far as I see it, mostly people from countryside were voting for him in the big cities not so much.
Hey btw out of curiosity, the horse that kicked him in the nuts, what happened to it?
And as for political part he does have a big following, I've seen more than 1 occassion but outside what I do, it starting to change for most of the people. This month there was a democracy rally which was the biggest of the 2017 in Turkey.
As for the horse threw that into prison for treason because no one attacks the president without facing the punishment. :v
The namecalling should not be tolerated at all, and I'll be watching for it in here going forwards.
I guess only in the Internet you see such hilarious things xD
Btw about the "fake reviews" topic, look at the main page from DoW3 steam shopping site :
That's not a proof at all, but pls be honest: Does ANYONE think these ridiculous reviews have been made objectively?
"I see you bring this up each and every time but you need to realize that people wanted a worthy successor to those games. Yes they could still play those but at the end of the day those games are showing their age(slightly less for CoH 2 i guess). And the playerbase has dwindled over the years obviously. So finding matches and all that might pose a problem. And that is why people wanted a worthy successor for those games.
As for why people are still here. Well at the end of the day people love the warhammer ip as well as the dawn of war series(some liked DoW 1 more some liked DoW 2 more) but 3 ended up driving and even bigger wedge between the already split fans. And yet some still have some hope left that relic will "wake up" in a sense so that they can try to "save" this game."
" DoW or CoH forums are not the active thing anymore, I'm not here for circlejerking. "
And why they re not actice anymore?Why people dont play it?To my mind people are bored with dow1/2 mechanic.They were great games once and i played them hundreds and hundreds of hours but how long you can play this same over and over.So you still think dow1 or dow 2 clone on new engine would be great and would attach milions?nope.In that case people would still play dow2.seriously graphic in dow2 is still awesome so why it doesnt have huge player base online at all?We needed something new but you cant accept that you live with nostalgia pinkglasses and want dow 1 clone when it wouldnt be so good in new times.go play dow 1 and teel me that it wouldnt be too olds-cool nowadays.
Some of us want more diversity in a game that uses Warhammer universe. What's so over the top about waiting to see motorbikes and vanguard veterans or sternguard veterans after a long time? Hell even add Grav weapons to the game or dwell into lore and write a more unique story that involves good war stories like how CoH recreated D-Day with their missions. I don't know add a titan escort mission but nooo, fans want too much from a developer that can pull them. I mean they already got a model from Dark Millenium online which is the scout titan which I assume they did because those leg details are so familiar and I'm pretty sure, I've seen those on that trailer.
Space Wolve with some random letters attached please come and discuss when you don't put everyone in one basket to think everyone is wanting the same thing.
The very first post after the original poster is both way off and pretty accurate, at times.
#1 - I'm not so sure this collapsed the quickest. Evolve's drop-off was incredibly rapid, and I've seen a large number of other games over the years that also might have dwindled faster, depending on what we are defining as 'dying out fastest'. Even the Civilization series (which had the same devs and/or publisher as Evolve, didn't it, at times?) has seen a few major flops, such as Civ IV Colonization and even Civ 6, which had a huge opening that sharply declined when players realized the game had major issues yet. So, agree with that part.
#2 - Totally wrong on the F2P part, though. Making this a F2P is not going to solve the underlying issues of it hardly being a DoW game. Further, when the original price was $60 it's not going to sit well with the few who stayed with the game, from launch, that you make it free. This isn't Team Fortress 2, here. Worse, how do you turn it into a F2P and still make money as the devs and publisher? F2P lives on micro-transactions... and you won't get many from a game that, if turned into F2P, probably won't see more than an increase of 1,000 more players on average, and that's a generous estimate.
#3 - Relic's matchmaking never changes. CoH2 had pretty big issues with matchmaking, and that was with a consistent number of 6,000 players or so. Sure, some are in custom matches, and some are in SP, but even if you figure just 2,000 were in MP, you still would think matchmaking would work better than it did.
#4 - Lastly, and a bit off topic:
No lessons were learned from CoH2. Literally none. The idea of commanders, with core content on them, as DLC is what drove me from even considering pre-ordering DoW3. After all, I saw how that was so great for CoH2. And then they removed retreat, suppression, and different types of cover. And there wasn't even a surrender option at launch. I've watched a friend who blundered into buying this play, and the list of issues that are carbon-copy from CoH2 is pretty long.
Hard to milk a cash-cow with your paid DLC commanders and other paid multiplayer content when no one plays the game. I've said it a few times now, but this game should have saved money by skipping the WH40K license, using generic sci-fi units, and being called 'Deathbrawl Legends' or something. That would have made more money than using an expensive license to create a game that barely resembles the mechanics of the earlier games.
Just sad.
I said already i cant prove . but that doesnt mean you can exclude such practice that is beyond reasonable doubt. Samsung and Apple are very large companies with reputable products yet they can be unethical and flat out deceptive. There is no reason why people cant suspect of people here doing the same. It doesnt matter if Relic decides to pay attention, what matters if people who read his post pay attention and if Relic doesnt, then the one at loss here is Relic. After thats what got them here in the first place, because they never listened when people warned them about the direction they were going for. You pay attention to his post, so do i.