Eldar is so broken it's not worth buying the game

[Drumadin]

Eldar is just ridicules, their lategame ♥♥♥♥ is so strong not even the strongest ability can pierce their shields.

I used the Gorkanaut, dropped down the fist ability with a direct hit that even destroys those super turrets in 2 hits. I didn't even remove the shields from their wraith units. The Wraithguards just stood there is their shields not taking a scratch and just blasting everything I own from sniper range, wheter it was infantry or veichles it got oneshot while their wraithknight ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ just obliterates units.

And their veichles should not have range for ♥♥♥♥, they got shields and can traverse all terrains with ease since they fly.

Whatever you do, don't buy this game. They really ♥♥♥♥ themself out when they made the Eldar because lategame they can spam their ♥♥♥♥ and there is nothing you can really do.

Concidering they are supposed to be "squishie" once you remove the shield it basicly means they got 2 health bars, and all you got to do is stand near a portal to replenish the shield in no time allowing you to save a fortune in recourses.

I have never in my entire life played a game that has a faction so unbalanced as the Eldar. I even smashed their wraithknights a while after I lost my Gorkanaut, and guess what? They got them back long before I got my Gorkanaut back, so the cooldown to get those broken ass units back is less than most.

Oh, they can also teleport their army everywhere they want by using the webway gates, yeah. Quite fun seeing vecihles and heavy units pop out of the smallest gates possible. To those who played Chaos Rising back in Dawn of War 2 days. Well the Eldar put the chaos to shame, that is how broken this is.

If you play Eldar, go ahead and buy the game. But if you want to play anything else then your best chance is hope you do not face Eldar. Because their shield ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and all flying tanks is just pure and utter ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ all the way through with ultra high damage you can't match or catch up with because of their upgrade and god awefull design.

[Mermaider]

引用自 Stalin's Holy Moustache：

引用自 Pile_O_Gunz：

I don't think there's been a warhammer game made that's actually balanced eldar properly on release they are always op.

Fast-hard hitting glass cannon is a balance nightmare. It's too early though to judge.

If they are supposed to be glass cannons, why the ♥♥♥♥ give them a shield that allows them to fight without casualties for a while? Out of every skirmish they are most likely to get the best out of it because they do not lose units as fast as the others, and your recourses drain fast if you need to reinforce alot early game.

Dude, you must suck at RTS games. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[Mermaider]

引用自 Stalin's Holy Moustache：

引用自 Pile_O_Gunz：

I don't think there's been a warhammer game made that's actually balanced eldar properly on release they are always op.

Fast-hard hitting glass cannon is a balance nightmare. It's too early though to judge.

If they are supposed to be glass cannons, why the ♥♥♥♥ give them a shield that allows them to fight without casualties for a while? Out of every skirmish they are most likely to get the best out of it because they do not lose units as fast as the others, and your recourses drain fast if you need to reinforce alot early game.

Boo waahhh. Im too retarded to counter ONE race in DoW 3. This game is ♥♥♥♥, you guys made a ♥♥♥♥ game with no balance. I suck ♥♥♥♥ at video games and you guys dont coddle me and let me win all the time.

[Evono]

引用自 Stalin's Holy Moustache：

Eldar is just ridicules, their lategame♥♥♥♥♥♥is so strong not even the strongest ability can pierce their shields.

I used the Gorkanaut, dropped down the fist ability with a direct hit that even destroys those super turrets in 2 hits. I didn't even remove the shields from their wraith units. The Wraithguards just stood there is their shields not taking a scratch and just blasting everything I own from sniper range, wheter it was infantry or veichles it got oneshot while their wraithknight ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥t just obliterates units.

And their veichles should not have range for♥♥♥♥♥♥ they got shields and can traverse all terrains with ease since they fly.

Whatever you do, don't buy this game. They really♥♥♥♥♥♥themself out when they made the Eldar because lategame they can spam their♥♥♥♥♥♥and there is nothing you can really do.

Concidering they are supposed to be "squishie" once you remove the shield it basicly means they got 2 health bars, and all you got to do is stand near a portal to replenish the shield in no time allowing you to save a fortune in recourses.

I have never in my entire life played a game that has a faction so unbalanced as the Eldar. I even smashed their wraithknights a while after I lost my Gorkanaut, and guess what? They got them back long before I got my Gorkanaut back, so the cooldown to get those broken♥♥♥♥♥units back is less than most.

Oh, they can also teleport their army everywhere they want by using the webway gates, yeah. Quite fun seeing vecihles and heavy units pop out of the smallest gates possible. To those who played Chaos Rising back in Dawn of War 2 days. Well the Eldar put the chaos to shame, that is how broken this is.

If you play Eldar, go ahead and buy the game. But if you want to play anything else then your best chance is hope you do not face Eldar. Because their shield ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥t and all flying tanks is just pure and utter ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥t all the way through with ultra high damage you can't match or catch up with because of their upgrade and god awefull design.

Get melee vs Wraithguards. or Artillery. they are expensive AF and easy to kill, you can counter these tanks easily with your own Hover tanks as SM the speeders rip them as orc dont know i hate orcs.

of course tons of Warithguards own tanks like your Gorkanaut thats their role lol anti tank.

and Eldar could allways use Webgates in any DOW.

[John]

Ranged Wraith Guard are easily countered with melee units , there melee capabilites are abyssmal. The melee Wraith Guard are very slow and are vulnerable to crowd control abilites paired with armor piercing damage , however they do boast the highest melee dps in the game so i don't recommend fighting them with other melee specialists.

[Mermaider]

And the mindless trolls have been silenced

[Fax]

everyone just has the faction they struggle against.

[Demion]

Its too early to whine about balance.

[Vespertellino]

Some wuss got rekt in multiplayer.

[Toadally Awesome]

I am surprised no one else mentioned this, but the Wraithguard have an ability that puts them in stasis for a while. That's how they tanked your Gorkanaut shot.

[Onearmy]

I have only played 6 matches so far and I've won 3 of them, but from what I can tell it definitely seems to me that the eldar are the most exploitable/advantageos faction to play. On a side note, rangers and banshees can kiss my arse.

I'm not going to say Eldar are extremely OP, however, they seem to be the most forgiving faction to play as with shields and what not.

[Seven of Nine]

Deff Dreads , by the tons are OP too....
Although IMHO Eldar has one of the worst early games at the moment...

I've seen plasma guns making some other niche units feel useless...

That's why I love to have some jump units, either as elites or line infantry. It's obvious for SM, is a poor elite choice for Orks, along with eldar (though Banshee upgrade can make them act like a weak jump unit, regarding terms of jump)...

Oh shields... Their "2nd" HP bar is very low. Fire Prism would be worthless without its super long range.
SO ideas: fast closing in units , with lots of disruption (knockbacs, stuns) supported with some form of artillery, and a screen, so its not your expensive units that get chopped up.
Say, boyz WAAAGH'd as screens, Dredds with scrap (that little shield is useless, but their speed with WAAAGH is awesome), with some Kannon bombardments...Use: Gorgutz spinning claw to act as a mobile cover, and if you have them, stormboyz should jump in , a couple of seconds before rest of the forces arrive.
Forgiving faction you say?
I'd say no. It's a big investment (early and early mid-game) to make it so. Late game you should have a nice resources income, but deffinetly not early game. I've seen eldar forces obliterated by basic boys in early game...
To be honest I can see a line :
Orks: most melee oriented faction, so speed for them is vital (WAAAGH towers WAAAGH spell).
Eldar: Ranged army mostly, I tended to use banshees and WBs for melee shielding/ screening to "protect" my ranged forces. Speed for kiting.
SM: Somewhat middle ground between the two, though leaning more towards ranged with the current meta.
These were in the beta matches I've played.

It's not about Eldar being OP, rather Ork being a bit underpowered currently.
WAAAGH towers shouldn't be revealed when you use that WAAAGH (it takes away all the possible surprise), also there is no statement in-game, about the range of this spell.
Orks should have stormboys as line infantry instead of Elite (swap it with nobz... easy...) Trucks seem to make most of the Ork units act as Jump infantry, but it's too much fiddling 'round, besides keeping an amount of the actual pop closed for other uses (say more dakka...)
Allow the kannon to have something like the WW's barrage...
Against eldar skimmers... well kannons... probably even a few tankbustas. Certainly the very fact that they can be where no-one else can be, is a bit strong. Eldar have Preds with Lascannons, yet orks have the glasskannon...
Orkz should have the looted tank! (Seriously though, is it only me who finds the Ork army lack a tanky tank?)

[Nogaxeh]

引用自 Jimeh：

Those Spectres are total bull5hit not obeying the maps boundary rules and firing while moving. Any suggestions to help counter tham with SM?

Yeah man, Skimmers, or Devastators. Tac squad and snipers can also work pretty well, but really Skimmers are going to be your best bet. They take a moment to spin up their guns, and then another few moments to wind up to a point that their guns will wreck your skimmers. Hold your skimmers in reserve (I usually build about 3 or 4 skimmers for back capping points) and then swing them in to take out the Spectres. Works much better if the Spectres are already targetting something else, because retargetting resets all their windup.

As to OPs opening comment. Artillery wrecks the ever loving panties off Wraithgaurd/knights. Melee works really well against the Wraithgaurd as well, but Artillery will straight up murder every single one with little survivors. I am sure there are other ways too.

Eldar get no Artillery. It's their weakspot. One whirlwind tank, or big truck or whatever it's called can absolutely dominate Wraithgaurds with impunity.

People who believe their line units are meat shields are going to get wrecked... every... single... time...

[Delilah the lesser]

引用自 Stalin's Holy Moustache：

Eldar is just ridicules, their lategame♥♥♥♥♥♥is so strong not even the strongest ability can pierce their shields.

I used the Gorkanaut, dropped down the fist ability with a direct hit that even destroys those super turrets in 2 hits. I didn't even remove the shields from their wraith units. The Wraithguards just stood there is their shields not taking a scratch and just blasting everything I own from sniper range, wheter it was infantry or veichles it got oneshot while their wraithknight ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥t just obliterates units.

And their veichles should not have range for♥♥♥♥♥♥ they got shields and can traverse all terrains with ease since they fly.

Whatever you do, don't buy this game. They really♥♥♥♥♥♥themself out when they made the Eldar because lategame they can spam their♥♥♥♥♥♥and there is nothing you can really do.

Concidering they are supposed to be "squishie" once you remove the shield it basicly means they got 2 health bars, and all you got to do is stand near a portal to replenish the shield in no time allowing you to save a fortune in recourses.

I have never in my entire life played a game that has a faction so unbalanced as the Eldar. I even smashed their wraithknights a while after I lost my Gorkanaut, and guess what? They got them back long before I got my Gorkanaut back, so the cooldown to get those broken♥♥♥♥♥units back is less than most.

Oh, they can also teleport their army everywhere they want by using the webway gates, yeah. Quite fun seeing vecihles and heavy units pop out of the smallest gates possible. To those who played Chaos Rising back in Dawn of War 2 days. Well the Eldar put the chaos to shame, that is how broken this is.

If you play Eldar, go ahead and buy the game. But if you want to play anything else then your best chance is hope you do not face Eldar. Because their shield ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥t and all flying tanks is just pure and utter ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥t all the way through with ultra high damage you can't match or catch up with because of their upgrade and god awefull design.

A good way to take out wraith units are anti tank weapons like last Canon's and lootas? Idk the ork equivalent remember rock paper scissors